Thoughts and opinions about RB6:LV on the Pro Circut

[OneOutOfManyMore]

I was wondering how everybody feels about this game being picked up for the Pro Circuit. I personally think it was a good choice, because this game really is amazing. I would imagine that all of the GoW fans out there are a bit outraged though.

But enough about what I think. Everybody else?

[xI-JACK-Ix]

i think its good.

a few questions though because i havent played rbsv before:

is it on the 360 (dont know if it is for reg. xbox)?

how many players can play on one TV?

[vVv B Walk]

This is great news, there are so many people that follow this game I think it is going to take off. I am very excited to see how this unfolds over the next year.

[vVv B Walk]

i think its good.

a few questions though because i havent played rbsv before:

is it on the 360 (dont know if it is for reg. xbox)?

how many players can play on one TV?

This game is on the 360 and there is no spit screen so one person per tv.

[MikeMan]

I've never played it, but my friends say it's pretty good. Much better than Gears.

I hope this goes over well, I know I'll be spending some time at Charlotte checking this game out.

[OneOutOfManyMore]

This is great news, there are so many people that follow this game I think it is going to take off. I am very excited to see how this unfolds over the next year.
I hope it does, but I am a little concerned about its chances. Do you think enough teams will show? I do not know much about what form of community is around for this game as of now.

[vVv B Walk]

I hope it does, but I am a little concerned about its chances. Do you think enough teams will show? I do not know much about what form of community is around for this game as of now.
There is a huge following for the Rb6 Community, I dont think they will have any problem getting teams to come.

[tsX ResponsE]

If they don't

[ix sh0ck xi]

I think this should be very interesting. Either way, MLG found an amazing way to advertise their online tourneys.

[Corvette Mike]

I think its great news.

Time to really have some fun!

[Its Nick]

I'm a little disappointed- not because GoW wasn't chosen but because of the plans of adding two titles.

As if VoD and events weren't cluttered enough, there'll now be FOUR different games to focus on. I can understand how adding games should help draw people to events, but... it just seems like too much.

[SHStiger]

I'm a little disappointed- not because GoW wasn't chosen but because of the plans of adding two titles.

As if VoD and events weren't cluttered enough, there'll now be FOUR different games to focus on. I can understand how adding games should help draw people to events, but... it just seems like too much.

Smash is getting dropped from the Circuit....they're just gonna do side things to help further support the community.

[xI-JACK-Ix]

64 teams with four people per team and no split screen? They are going to have to fork out a lot of money and buy a lot of 360s.

How are they going to do seeding with the teams with no online points? Random draw? FFA?

[C0wsrule]

Apparently RBV6 > Smash. With only 64 teams it seems that Vegas will take over Smashes spot ont he pro circuit as the back burner game.

[-SpLinTeR-___mlg_]

64 teams with four people per team and no split screen? They are going to have to fork out a lot of money and buy a lot of 360s.

How are they going to do seeding with the teams with no online points? Random draw? FFA?

I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I can think of is MLG adding FFA sharpshooter or something for the seedings.

[Gran_Calc]

The MLG Pro Circuit games roster currently consists of:
Halo 2 (Xbox)
Rainbow Six: Vegas (Xbox 360)
**Additional titles may be added to the roster at any time before or during the season**


Just because Rainbow Six: Vegas for the Xbox 360 was added to the games roster in no way means that any other game for the Xbox 360 will not be added. Get that notion out of your head.
Rainbow Six: Vegas and any other title are NOT mutually exclusive.


64 teams with four people per team and no split screen? They are going to have to fork out a lot of money and buy a lot of 360s.

The biggest mistake people make is thinking that the acquisition of assets (equipment) is a hindrance or a roadblock. It's not.


How are they going to do seeding with the teams with no online points? Random draw? FFA?

As stated in the rules (http://www.mlgpro.com/?q=events/2007/charlotte&pagenumber=2&page=4&query=node/106070), seeding for teams with no online points will be determined randomly, yes.

[Mr PuFF]

I think it's the stupidest thing ever. Lets watch 2 clans camp it out for a day or two. They shoulda picked up gears over this bad game.

[PhoenyX101]

I think it's the stupidest thing ever. Lets watch 2 clans camp it out for a day or two. They shoulda picked up gears over this bad game.

You'd rather watch 2 teams chainsaw and grenade each other to death with the host team winning 99.9% of the time?

I think it's a great decision by MLG to pick up Vegas, I have been playing it online for a few months now and it's awesome. The game takes a lot of skill, can be very strategical and is very balanced (other than things like auto-shotty which MLG has restricted). The option for a dedicated host is a huge bonus and,even when a player does have host, they don't have an advantage at all (unlike Halo 2 and Gears). I always felt that this game got overlooked by Gears simply because Gears was hyped to hell and back and, in my opinion, Gears isn't a competitive title even though it's a ton of fun to play. Vegas on the other hand has a very competitive community and I'm really looking forward to the game being played in the 2007 season.

[Rudolph]

I think it's a great pick.

I'm excited to see how others will play this game, and how the pros will play - especially with sniping.

[I LastWish I]

The MLG Pro Circuit games roster currently consists of:
Halo 2 (Xbox)
Rainbow Six: Vegas (Xbox 360)
**Additional titles may be added to the roster at any time before or during the season**


Just because Rainbow Six: Vegas for the Xbox 360 was added to the games roster in no way means that any other game for the Xbox 360 will not be added. Get that notion out of your head.
Rainbow Six: Vegas and any other title are NOT mutually exclusive.




The biggest mistake people make is thinking that the acquisition of assets (equipment) is a hindrance or a roadblock. It's not.




As stated in the rules (http://www.mlgpro.com/?q=events/2007/charlotte&pagenumber=2&page=4&query=node/106070), seeding for teams with no online points will be determined randomly, yes.

am i reading this wrong, or are you saying another 360 title will be added?

[assass3n X]

if u want to know if rainbow has a following just visit gamebattles.com its a site that is owned by mlg now go figure. and to the person who commented on sniping, no one really uses snipers on rainbow, they suk

[.A[c]iD.]

yeah rainbow is a totally different game like you will find everyone running with the same gun and things not switching up and stuff wat and learn kids

[CorvetteMike 22]

Overall I think Vegas has the upper hand over GoW. For many reasons that I'm not gonig to bore anyone & list. Maybe MLG will announce it as well...But for now, I believe they made the right choice. With the rules they made for Vegas, Camping is going to be very limited I believe. We will see...

[Skin_Cancer]

I think it's great that RB6 was picked up, i hope there are some really interesting matches late in the tourney... I haven't seen the game played at a hight level. Now I just hope Gears gets picked up too so I have a reason to go to Charlotte and maybe watch some of them.

[Anakin]

64 teams with four people per team and no split screen? They are going to have to fork out a lot of money and buy a lot of 360s.

How are they going to do seeding with the teams with no online points? Random draw? FFA?

Charlotte Seeding
1. Online Tournament Rank Points
2. Teams with no Online Tournament Rank Points will be seeded randomly

Regular Season Seeding After Charlotte
1. 2007 Pro Circuit Rank Points
2. Online Tournament Rank Points
3. Teams with no Pro Circuit or Online Tournament Rank Points will be seeded randomly.

For answers to any more questions you might have, the Regular Season rules for Rainbow Six Vegas have been posted here:
http://www.mlgpro.com/?q=events/2007/charlotte&pagenumber=3&page=4&query=node/106070

[II BoGuS II]

am i reading this wrong, or are you saying another 360 title will be added?

Despite me wanting to urge you not to look too much into it, it also states in the announcement that "MLG adds its second title..." which would lead most to believe they've got at least one more title in the works to be added, but again, that's all speculation at this point.

[DAEPIDEMIC___mlg_]

excellent choice also lets get GRAW2 in there also but Rb6 is a great choice with a very underground hardcore following so good luck to us all and may the best team win, Team Black Diamonds will be there also.

[feeljive23]

Great Idea Rainbow 6 is going to fire the MLG up. Lets get this party started

[Egotistic8]

I'm really excited that they picked up this game. I've never played it, or seen really good people play it and im very interested to see it in action. This was a great choice for MLG.

[Prophecy X]

Camping in RS:V? Please do. We'll tear you to shreds. None of the top teams camp, because that is detrimental to winning. The gametypes, settings and maps were all chosen after extensive testing with top Rainbow teams to minimize camping and make it as exciting as possible.

It'll be a blast.

[NR dirtydan]

Now how exactly will the matches be set-up. Like I know you have this 2 round rule where each game is 5 min. But for TSS and RET, how do you decide a winner. Could someone please clarify the rules that MLG has put down. So do you just play 2 games and then add up the total scores for both teams during TSS and RET Rounds. And then how will it work for A&D, will there be 3 games and first to 2 wins? Can someone please clarify on this???...

[Fu_Geri]

I'm personally glad they picked up RB6. Now theres something else to focus on besides Halo. Having new names be known is going to be great too.

Its also a good thing that they didn't pick up GoW, I found it being too repetitive at points. Don't get me wrong, a blast to play, but not competitively.

[NR dirtydan]

Now how exactly will the matches be set-up. Like I know you have this 2 round rule where each game is 5 min. But for TSS and RET, how do you decide a winner. Could someone please clarify the rules that MLG has put down. So do you just play 2 games and then add up the total scores for both teams during TSS and RET Rounds. And then how will it work for A&D, will there be 3 games and first to 2 wins? Can someone please clarify on this???...

[Xenios]

you'll play from each side, and add the scores up.

for A&D it goes by who scores first (if both score)
or if one team doesnt touch it, and one team does, that team will win.

[Dr3aMzZ]

well i think its a good idea

[LOA B4CKF1RE]

Im just wondering why some of you like one game and absolutely hate the other? I love Both R6V and Gears, and think they both can be played competively. If your a R6V fan and dont really like Gears, then dont play it but dont hate on it and say you dont want it on the circuit. Would it hurt you to have Halo,R6V, and Gears all on the Circuit? But like i said I love both and hope to see both on the circuit, but if Gears gets added thats where im at.

[I L3tHaL I]

if u want to know if rainbow has a following just visit gamebattles.com its a site that is owned by mlg now go figure. and to the person who commented on sniping, no one really uses snipers on rainbow, they sukAre you the chocolate milk kid?!?!?!?

[NR dirtydan]

So a match of TSS will consist of playing on a map where you play both spawns and then add up the total score to see who wins that round right? And then the same for Retrieval? So could you clarify a little more for the A&D, so what happens if there's a tie???...

[Nicktorius]

Is there a reason that there is not a Sharpshooter Tourney for R6V?

I would LOVE to go if there was FFA, and not just Team Sharpshooter.

[NR dirtydan]

Ya I think a sharpshooter addition would fit in quite nicely...

[S S0DEN]

Problem with TSS online is a team could jump out to a leed and then never respawn, thus win.

[II YaKuzA II]

I was suprised this has been put on the circuit before gears.....I think its a good choice though.More skillfull than gears,atleast I think so.

[Thom85]

I figure this qualifies to be posted here, given that we're talking about whether this game will succeed in mlg tournaments or not.

Want to help ensure that it does? Do you want to play in the upcoming online tournament for R6:Vegas but need a team? If so, please check out team Bold Strategy. We're currently a three man team of dedicated players, looking to compete in online tournaments. Competition in the Pro Circuit tour is possible, depending on the outcome of the online tournaments.

Registration closes Friday March 2, so if your interested, please send a pm to our captain "graphics4life" by Tuesday of this week.

[NR dirtydan]

You just gotta tell everyone you know, even if your practicing online or just hopping in and out of rooms, just mention it to anybody and everybody. Tell them about RB6V got added to the Pro Circuit and then tell them where to go in order to get registered and start competing. Right now it's all about Word of Mouth! SO TELL EVERYONE!!!...

[Diddles]

Extremely Glad They Picked Up This game....
Its An INSANELY Better Game Than Gears.

Not To Mention I Own At It....
Its Gonna Be A Good Pickup Just B/c Its A Completely Diffrent Style Of Play IMO.
People That Are Terrible At h2 Cant just Say....."Oh Well....Ill Go play RB6 B/c I Consistantly Dont Make It Outta The AM" They wont Be Able To Do That In RB6 Imo....

Which Is What I Think Alot of People were banking on With Getting gears Picked Up.

Either Way Its Gonna be Sick.....Cant Wait To get The Team Finalized.
And Looking To See Some Of You Guys Thatve Never been To An Event At Some This Year.

[S 3 C R 3 T Z]

im glad they picked up vegas, but if its gonna be tss then count me out

[NR dirtydan]

I'm not to happy about the TS gametype that they put onto RB6V, Cuz I thought that MLG announced that they weren't even considering picking up TS as a gametype for MLG. This is bad in the way I look at it. So they're basically just gonnna play 1 map and 1 game of TS for 10min., and then whoever wins, wins that map. Nah, TS is boring and takes no skill, it's a whole bunch of ppl running around and trying to assume where the other guy is, basically it's whoever see's who first. It takes no real team skills, like communication. For the amount of time that everyone's alive. But then you can only watch. The teamwork skill is just not that much, there's not a lot of teamwork that goes into TS, because your just basically getting lucky if you see them. And then hopefully you can kill them before they have a chance to see you and then do the same. TS to me is a waste of time...

[Xenios]

I'm not to happy about the TS gametype that they put onto RB6V, Cuz I thought that MLG announced that they weren't even considering picking up TS as a gametype for MLG. This is bad in the way I look at it. So they're basically just gonnna play 1 map and 1 game of TS for 10min., and then whoever wins, wins that map. Nah, TS is boring and takes no skill, it's a whole bunch of ppl running around and trying to assume where the other guy is, basically it's whoever see's who first. It takes no real team skills, like communication. For the amount of time that everyone's alive. But then you can only watch. The teamwork skill is just not that much, there's not a lot of teamwork that goes into TS, because your just basically getting lucky if you see them. And then hopefully you can kill them before they have a chance to see you and then do the same. TS to me is a waste of time...


wow, TS takes just as much team work as any other gametype. You cant make mistakes, or your team is going to be shorthanded because you only have 1 life, or one chance.


please dont respond cause i dont feel like reading another one of your novels. But I do agree with they either need to do all TS, or all TSS, because they are two different playstyles.

[Wags]

Despite me wanting to urge you not to look too much into it, it also states in the announcement that "MLG adds its second title..." which would lead most to believe they've got at least one more title in the works to be added, but again, that's all speculation at this point.Specuation, indeed. "Second title" doesn't necessarily mean anything regarding the number of titles to be used this season...it's probably meant to be ambiguous. It's just a better wording for MLG to use, because it allows for the freedom to make decisions either way without making commitments this early. They may or may not add more titles and that fact is well accomodated by the diction used in their announcements.

[Army_Chick]

Hopefully Ubi will wait a little longer before releasing the next RS.

I imagine spawn-killing would be minimal on LAN. And camping? No ****. It's Rainbow Six. There's going to be some camping, but doing it the whole game isn't going to get you too far unless you have a very good plan.

Then you deserve to win.

[Anakin]

We are using Survival for Online Tournaments and Team Sharpshooter for the Pro Circuit.

As many of you know, players can choose to change their weapon and never respawn. This is something we can regulate on the Pro Circuit. Since we can't regulate it in Online Tournaments we are using Survival instead.

[Nicktorius]

GG Anakin...
anyways, how about that R6V FFA?!?!?

[natedog7]

i think its a sweet pick up by mlg..i mean they needed a little game change. Halo is cool but i think vegas style of play is way better for mlg tourneys and events and will be more fun to watch. I think is would be sweet if vegas grew as big as halo did and be able to have it on tv and crap. But i think it would be really legit if mlg pick up graw 2 here soon at well then alot of people would be happy and i would travel and participate in many more events.

[NR dirtydan]

Fosho GRAW 2 is something to look out for coming up here. But the FFA for RB6V would be awesome. With No Restrics of course...

[LordJerith]

Is there a reason that there is not a Sharpshooter Tourney for R6V?

I would LOVE to go if there was FFA, and not just Team Sharpshooter.

Some things to consider:

You can't do TSS on online play because a team that is up could hit x to change equipment and not respawn near the end of the match. It would be nearly impossible to prove the team is doing that.

Also, I didn't read in the rules that the 2 round maps would be split 5 min each. The settings say each round is 10 minutes. Did I miss something?

[NR dirtydan]

Some things to consider:

You can't do TSS on online play because a team that is up could hit x to change equipment and not respawn near the end of the match. It would be nearly impossible to prove the team is doing that.

Also, I didn't read in the rules that the 2 round maps would be split 5 min each. The settings say each round is 10 minutes. Did I miss something?

Now for the online tournament I believe that all games are 10 min. rounds irregardless if it's 1 round or 2 rounds...

[Nicktorius]

Some things to consider:

You can't do TSS on online play because a team that is up could hit x to change equipment and not respawn near the end of the match. It would be nearly impossible to prove the team is doing that.

Also, I didn't read in the rules that the 2 round maps would be split 5 min each. The settings say each round is 10 minutes. Did I miss something?


Why did you quote me?
Your response had nothing to do with what I said.

[LordJerith]

Why did you quote me?
Your response had nothing to do with what I said.

Woops! I misread your original post. sorry.

Maybe future events will include a FFA. . . who knows?

[NR dirtydan]

Hopefully, I hope that the FFA's will be No Restrics though if they end up going thru with even considering FFA's. But can't wait till MLG Charlotte, it's gonna be a blast. Now let's say that RB6V does good at MLG Charlotte, then what would happen next???...

[Nicktorius]

Hopefully, I hope that the FFA's will be No Restrics though if they end up going thru with even considering FFA's.

Why would you want no restrictions?
So you can get cheap kills?
In my opinion, they need to BAN grenades too.


But can't wait till MLG Charlotte, it's gonna be a blast. Now let's say that RB6V does good at MLG Charlotte, then what would happen next???...

They would most likely just bring it back for future regional events. They proly wouldn't drop a game after one tourney, especially with all the hype on the forums. Also, didn't MLG get rid of SSBM? So now they have plenty more room for real games.

[Slate]

I think its pretty cool to see some new games on MLG, vegas is a balanced game and not random like GoW is.

[SirTet]

Personally, I think it's great.

Make no mistake, I love playing Halo:CE and Halo 2 as much as the next guy; and I get a big kick of out playing Gears Of War too.

However, to see a game like Rainbow 6 make it on to the circuit, is awesome. Like Halo 2, the teams that will really shine are the ones that combine great individual skill with incredible teamwork; yet, the whole approach to the game is going to be worlds apart from the way Halo 2 is played.

I won't be able to join the circuit this year, because college doesn't end until June. But I hope that the addition of Rainbow 6 signals that a broader spectrum of competitive games is being looked at for the circuit.

I can't say for certain how it will play, but I have my fingers crossed that Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 will be another prime candidate for this years circuit - or perhaps next years. Either way, I'm glad to see a shooter other than Halo 2 this time around,

[Nicktorius]

^^^fo sho

[II BoGuS II]

Personally, I think it's great.

Make no mistake, I love playing Halo:CE and Halo 2 as much as the next guy; and I get a big kick of out playing Gears Of War too.

However, to see a game like Rainbow 6 make it on to the circuit, is awesome. Like Halo 2, the teams that will really shine are the ones that combine great individual skill with incredible teamwork; yet, the whole approach to the game is going to be worlds apart from the way Halo 2 is played.

I won't be able to join the circuit this year, because college doesn't end until June. But I hope that the addition of Rainbow 6 signals that a broader spectrum of competitive games is being looked at for the circuit.

I can't say for certain how it will play, but I have my fingers crossed that Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 will be another prime candidate for this years circuit - or perhaps next years. Either way, I'm glad to see a shooter other than Halo 2 this time around,

I couldn't agree more. Good 'ish right there.

[Thom85]

In my opinion, they need to BAN grenades too.

I seem to bump into this all the time, both here and in online play. Would you mind explaining why YOU feel grenades should be banned? Be forewarned, if you are one of those people that want 'nades banned and then run around with the XM-26 LSS, I will find a way to catapult you out into space directed at a hungry and burning sun.