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Boost3r
10-17-2007, 11:27 PM
It seems whenever I play Halo 3 (Halo 2 too) Me living or dying revolves around grenades (Much moreso than other things). I usually end up dieing via grenade after combat with another person, or I end up dying via two grenades consecutively. I know grenades are part of the game, but the ratio of me dieing via grenade is abnormal (I think so anyway).

I don't stand still in one spot, I'm always moving, even if it's just little movements. But whatever I do, the last sound I always hear is the tick of a grenade bouncing, then BOOM! It's very frustrating.

VadeR
10-17-2007, 11:32 PM
I used to have this problem

Keep playing

BNIC CEASY
10-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Male sure that you're focused, your TV volume is at an adequate level, and that you don't have crap vision. Then it should be a breeze. This is honestly the first person i've ever had ask for advice on something like this before lol. But im sure you'll figure it out.

Medgrik
10-17-2007, 11:39 PM
just gotta know how they work.. after a while you'll begin to know where there nade is going to land right after they throw it.. just the little things you gotta pay attention to.

Suerte
10-18-2007, 12:02 AM
If you're really having that much trouble then you should make sure you have the most basic things down.

Like BNIC CEASY noted, make sure your TV is at a good volume. If you can not see the grenade (where it came from, where it landed), the sound it makes when it hits the floor is your only clue. It's not all that great when this is your only clue, as you will be forced to react rather quickly, but it's better than nothing.

While this may not be the greatest advice, I am forced to give it to you: Assume that your enemy is going to throw grenades at you. If you're turning a corner, assume that there will be a nade waiting for you. If you're about to kill someone but have not yet landed the coupe de grace, assume he will throw a nade and kill you before you kill him.

You may be asking why this is bad advice, and it's simple, assuming you are always in danger hinders your aggressiveness. Like everything else, too much is never a good thing. Too much caution and passiveness can be just as bad as too much aggressiveness.

For now, practice caution but remember that you will have to act in order to win a match.

fklash183
10-18-2007, 12:36 AM
Always charge that way they have to be amazing to hit you with good grenades, unless they are sticks!

Nah just be aware and the moment you see hear smell a grenata you must jump away, if you wait even for a second its over.

I had this problem in H2, just keep playin!

TTO_AceHawk89
10-18-2007, 12:45 AM
crouch behind your teammates so they take all the damage, or pickup one of these :usethatOS!:

BPowda
10-18-2007, 12:53 AM
The easiest way to avoid a gernade (or atleast reduce the damage you take) is to jump and plan on being at the height of your jump when the gernade explodes. H3's nades have a rediculously small blast radius so you should be able to jump away from most gernades. You can even start a game yurself and practice throwing gernades (all types) and try a few things- 1) learn how long it takes them to explode once you throw them (this will give you a better idea of how long you have to manuver out of the way once you see or hear one coming). 2) throw nades near you and learn how big their blast radius is, get a feel for how much damage you take (if any) when you are a certain distance from a nade. This will allow you to know how you need to react to a gernade (if you're far enough away you won't have to do anything, or if a plasma lands at yur feet u better run and jump).

Just playing in games helps a lot but I would HIGHLY suggest doing what I said about throwing nades around by yurself for a while. Once you learn how the nades operate, you should start to learn situations in which you can expect a nade to be coming your way. People obviously throw more nades in matchmaking since you have a short range weapon so this might not be too bad to play in. Hope this all helped.

PR3DA7OR1AL
10-18-2007, 01:23 AM
I am having a much bigger problem with grenades in Halo3 than the last two games. I seriously was considering watching many games and reviewing what areas seemed safest to be when you really don't know where the hell anyone is.

That's when I get naded, when I don't know where the enemy is. Maybe that is your problem?

BPowda
10-18-2007, 01:56 AM
If you are serious about getting good at halo and have money for it, you should check out gaming-lessons.com. You can get a lesson from a pro (who know way more than any of us and are way better than any of us). I've only heard good things about taking a lesson. I'm not sure how it will be for halo 3, you might have to wait a while for the pros to learn the game.

axi0m
10-18-2007, 02:31 AM
It seems whenever I play Halo 3 (Halo 2 too) Me living or dying revolves around grenades (Much moreso than other things). I usually end up dieing via grenade after combat with another person, or I end up dying via two grenades consecutively. I know grenades are part of the game, but the ratio of me dieing via grenade is abnormal (I think so anyway).

I don't stand still in one spot, I'm always moving, even if it's just little movements. But whatever I do, the last sound I always hear is the tick of a grenade bouncing, then BOOM! It's very frustrating.

Should we be concerned about your name? lol

ManTrain
10-18-2007, 02:36 AM
It's so funny that people have this problem. NistiC is easily one of the best grenade dodgers I've ever seen in H1, yet in H2, he gets hit by everything. You just need to play more and learn the textures of the ground and walls around you so you can learn where nades will stick/skip etc. Just keep learning as you play.

RYAN-the-LION
10-18-2007, 02:47 AM
i remember when i first started playing i always thought that i should jump away from the person nading me. if the nade hits near your feet, try jumping towards the person that nades you since the nade will be bouncing behind you

westx21
10-18-2007, 04:00 AM
If you are serious about getting good at halo and have money for it, you should check out gaming-lessons.com. You can get a lesson from a pro (who know way more than any of us and are way better than any of us). I've only heard good things about taking a lesson. I'm not sure how it will be for halo 3, you might have to wait a while for the pros to learn the game.

Or just watch videos of Pros for free. Save your money, OP and play more, preferably with players who are better than you.

BPowda
10-18-2007, 04:07 AM
Or just watch videos of Pros for free. Save your money, OP and play more, preferably with players who are better than you.

Watching videos does help, only if you actually know what they're doing and why. Plus, you have to know how to play your own style.

BPowda
10-18-2007, 05:29 AM
man, ppl have really turned into ***** on here, someone actually negative rep'd me for spelling grenades as "gernades", I <3 mlg forums

chrisrayn
10-18-2007, 06:22 AM
Watching videos does help, only if you actually know what they're doing and why. Plus, you have to know how to play your own style.

this is true...but the games in question should be watched over and over and over again. i've done that with a lot of games, and written down the parts of the video i just didn't understand. a lot of the time you end up concluding, though, that there's voice talk going on that you can't hear, or something along those lines.

but aside from that...the best way to learn is just keep playing. and really, i don't think you can play like an hour a day and get better. 2-3 is a good minimum session for getting better. an hour is like a warmup. after that, all you'll be Thinking about is grenades cause you'll be into your groove. and honestly...i'd say i'm fairly decent at avoiding grenades, but everyone throws them differently. sometimes i'll do my customary avoidance move, and for some reason, the idiot threw the grenade in a place i was nowhere near, nor heading towards the second before. so in essence i go out of my way to walk Into a grenade.

but seriously, you just have to play lots of games and get used to going in the opposite direction of a thrown grenade on instinct, and jumping away too.

iI M3GaTRON Ii
10-18-2007, 08:19 AM
dont be in spots that u would nade... or spots that r easy for nades to reach

eNtitY~
10-18-2007, 08:43 AM
GET AN OVERSHIELD!

sc0tt
10-18-2007, 09:58 AM
man, ppl have really turned into ***** on here, someone actually negative rep'd me for spelling grenades as "gernades", I <3 mlg forums

Thank you for making my day.

I seriously hate these forums.

YRP_Sleepy
10-18-2007, 10:24 AM
And strafe jump or jump forward or backward according to your cover and how far your opponent threw the grenade. If you can strafe jump behind a structure that is best. If the grenade looks like it was thrown far jump forward, and if it's short jump backwards.

Martyrzor
10-18-2007, 04:11 PM
just keep playing and as you play just pay attention to where people are nading you from and which places your most often dying. So you can learn to anticipate where your most likely gonna be getting naded from or if your standing somewhere you usually die from nades you can learn to keep an eye out for nades being thrown at you so you'll be able to move out of the way in time

justpeeking
10-18-2007, 05:14 PM
just keep playing and as you play just pay attention to where people are nading you from and which places your most often dying. So you can learn to anticipate where your most likely gonna be getting naded from or if your standing somewhere you usually die from nades you can learn to keep an eye out for nades being thrown at you so you'll be able to move out of the way in time

Dang what a weird coincidence, I live in your town and everybody puts "-zor" at the end of all their words as a joke. Maybe you go to my school lol.

Anyways, on the topic of the original post, it's not so much of an issue that you're not reacting to the nade in time, but I think a big part of it is that you haven't quite learned to EXPECT the grenade before it comes. I can by your descriptions that you'd be the type of person who gets killed a lot when you're on the retreat from a fight you were losing and you duck around a hallway, only to have your opponent always seem to peek and throw a "perfect" nade (one that kills you) around the corner.

If that describes you well, then your problem is most likely that you're too predictable in your actions when you're low on health. You've gotta learn to expect the grenade and learn where people are gonna throw it. In retreat situations, people throw nades generally in two ways: a) to keep you from getting in to their area when their health is low (right by the corner of the door to block) or b) to finish the kill if they think you'll retreat first (far down the hall). If you're right next to the door, they'll probably go w/ nade-a and try to bounce it to your position, so jump backwards away from the nade and face them (to keep them from getting an easy kill by shooting you in the back). Do not try to beat the nade and go for the kill - this fight is one you'll probably have to abandon. If you're farther away, you'll get nade-b and they'll peek around the corner to lob one to you, so jump forwards closer to the door or jump sideways out of the way.

If you find yourself dying a lot behind cover from long range nades, then you need to move faster from your immediate cover into a safer area. Cover only blocks bullets, not nades, which can do damage from around the corner. Hide yourself behind cover from their bullets and when you hear their bullets stop for a split second, then move because that's when they're gonna throw the nade. Avoid it if you can, but it's better to expose yourself to bullets for a split second than to stay in place and hope the grenade misses. And as a rule, if the first grenade hits you and you don't die, there WILL be a second and the second will hit without a doubt.

Ultimately, the idea behind not getting killed by grenades is anticipation. Eventually you will become better at predicting what people will do in fights against you and you should find yourself dying less and less as your Halo-intuition becomes more developed. Just keep thinking about what you did wrong when you died and internalize it until you develop a successful way of playing.

Hope these thoughts help.

westx21
10-18-2007, 07:39 PM
Watching videos does help, only if you actually know what they're doing and why. Plus, you have to know how to play your own style.

There is absolutely nothing T2 could teach me about H3 of H2 that would be worth over a hundred dollars. Halo is not rocket science. The very least I could learn would be some kind of jump/nade shortcut/angle which I could learn by watching VOD.

H2headshot
10-18-2007, 07:45 PM
Try to nade them first nades are a good effort on killing somone,use them wisley and success is yours.

Boost3r
10-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Should we be concerned about your name? lol


I got the inspiration for this name from two things. My nickname when I was around 5, and the short little fat dude in Super Mario RPG who tries to marry Peach. Boosting is lame.



As for everyone else, thank you for the suggestions. I'll try these as soon as I get back to Halo 3 (Puzzle Quest has me under a spell).

axi0m
10-18-2007, 11:40 PM
I got the inspiration for this name from two things. My nickname when I was around 5, and the short little fat dude in Super Mario RPG who tries to marry Peach. Boosting is lame.



As for everyone else, thank you for the suggestions. I'll try these as soon as I get back to Halo 3 (Puzzle Quest has me under a spell).
I was just pickin on ya.

On topic:
OK, so you want to avoid grenades? Well consider why your enemy throws them where they do: because they anticipate you to be where they are throwing them, whether you already are or are on your way. So, therefore, to aviod the grenade you must break the correlation between their anticipation and reality. Basically be unpredictable, trick them, fake them, strafe quickly. That is all there is to it, how you go about doing this is where different opinions will arise.

djpac
10-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Grenade arcs are flatter in this game than in H2, so nades that you think you're dodging are actually going to hit you. Spend a few minutes with a friend just throwing grenades and watching him throw them to get a feel for where they're going to go. I had this problem for a while, just because you're used to dodging the old nades so you do the same thing in H3 when that won't work.

ljp1125
10-19-2007, 12:18 AM
I have had this problem to. But fortunately I have found my own way of avoiding getting killed.

What I do is try to predict what my oponent will do next. If his clip run's out he is most likely going to use a
nade to finish you off. If you find yourself in this position do like alot of people here already said and:

strafe jump or jump forward or backward according to your cover and how far your opponent threw the grenade

Dont be predictable... if you are then you are pretty much doomed.

Sometimes if I am in a tough situaton where both me and my enimies shields are down,
when he throws a nade, I throw one right back at him. Even though I die He gets killed too.

This does not work for everybody... But it works for me 75% of the time.
Sometimes I get really lucky and not even die (but that is rare).

HumbLe___mlg_
10-19-2007, 12:55 AM
Take a look at some vids of urself, when u go back u can see what you could of done better in that situation. Practice will help, know blast radius, on instinct u learn what u can do to avoid them:smile:

Red_ryaN
10-19-2007, 01:09 AM
when I'm no shield, I just jump around like a cute little bunny rabbit

I avoid grenades, and look too goddamn cute to shoot at

BNIC CEASY
10-19-2007, 04:10 AM
when I'm no shield, I just jump around like a cute little bunny rabbit

I avoid grenades, and look too goddamn cute to shoot at

LOL that was perdy funny, it might just be cuz im drunk but i liked it.

pman22
10-19-2007, 10:03 AM
jump hump jump hump jump hump repeat till the arsehole stops throwing them

xOO7x
10-19-2007, 02:52 PM
when I'm no shield, I just jump around like a cute little bunny rabbit

I avoid grenades, and look too goddamn cute to shoot at

Impressive and effective tactics.

iI M3GaTRON Ii
10-19-2007, 02:58 PM
man, ppl have really turned into ***** on here, someone actually negative rep'd me for spelling grenades as "gernades", I <3 mlg forums
rep means nuting .... + rep to balance it out happy??

Boost3r
10-19-2007, 03:03 PM
when I'm no shield, I just jump around like a cute little bunny rabbit

I avoid grenades, and look too goddamn cute to shoot at



Who's the character in your picture? The one on the left.

BPowda
10-19-2007, 04:41 PM
rep means nuting .... + rep to balance it out happy??

I know, I was just making a comment about people's immaturity

Cut
10-19-2007, 04:42 PM
Jump

X_Slicer_X
10-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Jump
And hope.


It's what I do and works (mostly)