<//(=-Meridian-=)\\> Multi-Level Map for All Gametypes

[MasterWizard]

ATTENTION! I just came to this site for my first time today, and I noticed that some asshole stole my map, barely changed anything, put a new name, and didn't even change the description. Dumbass. His name is SaLoT. He called his plagiarized map "Reaction" (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147069&page=2). He has since changed his Reaction map to another one to try and weasel out of the accusations, but I saved his map with his name on it in my Fileshare. (http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=MasterWizard%20ED) Anyway, so you guys know where he got 90% of his map from, here is the original, that I worked hard on for over a week solid. If you feel like reading a lengthy argument about this subject, here is SaLoT's thread that he is trying to abandon, linked for evidence. http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147803&page=6

This (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16503192) is my updated version, the original was posted on 1/4/08, and the original thread is here. (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16207363)

MERIDIAN (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16503192)

Overview 1 + Power Weapon and Equipment Spawns (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/powerweapons.jpg)
Overview 2 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16718701-Full.jpg)
View From Starting Base (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16723181-Full.jpg)
Floating Platforms (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726613-Full.jpg)
Rockets (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726692-Full.jpg)
Rockets vs Laser 1 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16728061-Full.jpg)
Rockets vs Laser 2 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16719372-Full.jpg)
Sniper (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16727422-Full.jpg)
Sniper vs Sniper (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16724191-Full.jpg)
Double Man Cannon (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16724895-Full.jpg)
Invisible Sword Drop (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726007-Full.jpg)
Sword Pit (DANGER) (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726990-Full.jpg)
Firebomb (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16720777-Full.jpg)
Hammer (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16718276-Full.jpg)

Goals
-Perfect symmetry and weapon balance for each team
-Multiple levels and elevated platforms
-3 different ways to get to every key area
-Tricky jumps that reward skilled players
-Interesting confrontations and power weapon struggles
-Open sight lines for sniping, but lots of cover for victims
-To utilize every available square inch of Foundry and all Forge money
-To play as well as a Bungie map
-Support for all gametypes

Description
In most team games, each team starts in the bases that are divided by the un-moveable wall that Bungie put in the middle (with the exception of Asymmetrical CTF and Assault games). This area of the map is less frequently traveled, but for those who venture back into the connecting hallway, they will find a Gravity Hammer in the center. Moving on to the main arena, you can walk up one of three ramps leading to different floors of the outer perimeter. The top floor contains long range weapons such as BR's and Carbines, with Snipers behind the windows of the long catwalks (also where the Flags spawn and bombs are armed in Symmetrical CTF and Assault variants). The lower floors contain the whole variety of dual-wieldable and/or close range weapons, but there are pistols on each end to fight mid-range battles with foes up top.

The center of the map contains all the goods. Overshield and Active Camo are floating on opposite sides, both placed in ways to make for speedy getaways or surprise attacks. The Overshield is placed in between a Double Man-Cannon that will get you to the top floor of either side. The Active Camo is floating over an escape hatch that drops down onto the Sword. The Shotgun is on the floor between a U-shaped partition wall, and the Overshield/Double Man-Cannon stairs. Behind the U-shaped partition wall is a Grav Lift, placed in the center of the map to give players the option of using it anywhere, which will give a distinct advantage to whoever grabs it, since they can reach the top floors with it. Looking directly down a double box hallway towards the back of the map is the dangerous death pit with the Sword, and about 8 different ways to attack (this is where you plant the bomb in One Bomb Assault variants). The most crucial power weapons, the Rockets and the Spartan Laser, are in the most dangerous locations to get to on floating platforms, and placed in a way that will make for very intense confrontations with one another, but impossible for one person to get to both locations without going two different directions. In order to get to the Rockets, you must find your way into a secret teleporter, that requires a skillfully timed jump (you'll figure it out).

I set it up for all gametypes except for Infection, V.I.P. and Juggernaut, since I never play those game types and I'm not sure exactly how to set up the objectives. Flag and bomb spawns are different depending on the game type (offense/defense, multi-flag, neutral bomb, etc.)

Weapons
4 BRs
4 Carbines
2 Brute Shots
2 Plasma Pistols
2 Maulers
4 Pistols
4 SMGs
2 Plasma Rifles
4 Spikers
1 Needler
1 Sniper Rifle
1 Beam Rifle
1 Rocket Launcher
1 Spartan Laser
1 Sword
1 Shotgun
1 Gravity Hammer (Symmetric games only)
2 Turrets

Equipment:
1 Overshield
1 Active Camo
1 Power Drain
1 Bubble Shield
1 Grav Lift
1 Firebomb
Several Plasma and Spike Grenades

Alright, I really want everyone to check this map out, play on it, tell me what you think. I put forth a whole lot of effort on making everything as perfect as I could. I haven't gotten to play any custom games with more than one or two people as I don't have many xbox live friends to play customs with, so I need testers and constructive criticism. If you want to play me in some custom games on my map, send me a friend request.

Version 1.1 Update - List of Changes

Weapon and Equipment Changes
- Swapped Shotgun with Grav Lift. This accomplshes three things:
1. Makes shotgun more accessible to both teams in asymmetrical games.
2. Makes it harder for one team to get both shotgun and sword.
3. Grav Lift is now in a more central location of the map.
Players are more free to choose where to use it, rather than feeling obligated to drop it where it spawns.
It is now more challenging to get up to the staircase with the Overshield and double man-cannon.
- Swapped Maulers with SMG's:
1. Puts Maulers further away from Shotgun.
2. Dual SMG's just feel better on the floor.
- Removed Gravity Hammer from Asymmetrical games (this is now where single bombs spawn, and single flags are returned to)
- Removed Weapon Holder under Sword and leaned it agaist the DANGER wall. (saved me $3)
- Used that $3 to add two plasma grenades down the long hallway with the Hammer, and one spike grenade between Sword and Grav Lift.
- Slightly moved Plasma Rifle that wasn't in the exact center of the double box it's in. (obsessive compulsive weapon straightening)
- Adjusted respawn times on certain weapons and the grav lift.

Spawner and Objective Changes
- Added more respawn points in more logical areas, removed some from bad areas.
- Added starting locations for Asymmetrical games, now the map works great for One Flag CTF and single bomb Assault games.
- Adjusted Flag and Bomb spawns, fixed a critical flaw in neutral bomb spawn.

Structural Changes (that nobody would probably notice but me)
- Fixed top floor alignment problem on Sniper side by flipping two walls over (double walls don't line up right unless the same side is facing up on all of them)
- Straightened center u-shaped partition wall (or tried to, wall corners move slightly for some reason when you restart the map)
- Slightly adjusted single box and bridges leading to double man-cannon stairway.
- Moved forklift a couple inches to make jumps just a little easier, and for symmetry with the truck.

[SaLoT]

ATTENTION! I just came to this site for my first time today, and I noticed that some asshole stole my map, barely changed anything, put a new name, and didn't even change the description. Dumbass. His name is SaLoT and I'm gonna go ahead and call him a piece of ****. He called his plagiarized map "Reaction" (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/xNOenRsulpJbnA.html?comment_page=1). Anyway, so you guys know where he got 90% of his map from, here is the original, that I worked hard on for over a week solid.

This (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16503192) is my updated version, the original was posted on 1/4/08, and the original thread is here. (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16207363)

MERIDIAN (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16503192)

Overview 1 + Power Weapon and Equipment Spawns (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/powerweapons.jpg)
Overview 2 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16718701-Full.jpg)
View From Starting Base (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16723181-Full.jpg)
Floating Platforms (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726613-Full.jpg)
Rockets (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726692-Full.jpg)
Rockets vs Laser 1 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16728061-Full.jpg)
Rockets vs Laser 2 (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16719372-Full.jpg)
Sniper (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16727422-Full.jpg)
Sniper vs Sniper (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16724191-Full.jpg)
Double Man Cannon (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16724895-Full.jpg)
Invisible Sword Drop (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726007-Full.jpg)
Sword Pit (DANGER) (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16726990-Full.jpg)
Firebomb (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16720777-Full.jpg)
Hammer (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/edlogg/16718276-Full.jpg)

Goals
-Perfect symmetry and weapon balance for each team
-Multiple levels and elevated platforms
-3 different ways to get to every key area
-Tricky jumps that reward skilled players
-Interesting confrontations and power weapon struggles
-Open sight lines for sniping, but lots of cover for victims
-To utilize every available square inch of Foundry and all Forge money
-To play as well as a Bungie map
-Support for all gametypes

Description
In most team games, each team starts in the bases that are divided by the un-moveable wall that Bungie put in the middle (with the exception of Asymmetrical CTF and Assault games). This area of the map is less frequently traveled, but for those who venture back into the connecting hallway, they will find a Gravity Hammer in the center. Moving on to the main arena, you can walk up one of three ramps leading to different floors of the outer perimeter. The top floor contains long range weapons such as BR's and Carbines, with Snipers behind the windows of the long catwalks (also where the Flags spawn and bombs are armed in Symmetrical CTF and Assault variants). The lower floors contain the whole variety of dual-wieldable and/or close range weapons, but there are pistols on each end to fight mid-range battles with foes up top.

The center of the map contains all the goods. Overshield and Active Camo are floating on opposite sides, both placed in ways to make for speedy getaways or surprise attacks. The Overshield is placed in between a Double Man-Cannon that will get you to the top floor of either side. The Active Camo is floating over an escape hatch that drops down onto the Sword. The Shotgun is on the floor between a U-shaped partition wall, and the Overshield/Double Man-Cannon stairs. Behind the U-shaped partition wall is a Grav Lift, placed in the center of the map to give players the option of using it anywhere, which will give a distinct advantage to whoever grabs it, since they can reach the top floors with it. Looking directly down a double box hallway towards the back of the map is the dangerous death pit with the Sword, and about 8 different ways to attack (this is where you plant the bomb in One Bomb Assault variants). The most crucial power weapons, the Rockets and the Spartan Laser, are in the most dangerous locations to get to on floating platforms, and placed in a way that will make for very intense confrontations with one another, but impossible for one person to get to both locations without going two different directions. In order to get to the Rockets, you must find your way into a secret teleporter, that requires a skillfully timed jump (you'll figure it out).

I set it up for all gametypes except for Infection, V.I.P. and Juggernaut, since I never play those game types and I'm not sure exactly how to set up the objectives. Flag and bomb spawns are different depending on the game type (offense/defense, multi-flag, neutral bomb, etc.)

Weapons
4 BRs
4 Carbines
2 Brute Shots
2 Plasma Pistols
2 Maulers
4 Pistols
4 SMGs
2 Plasma Rifles
4 Spikers
1 Needler
1 Sniper Rifle
1 Beam Rifle
1 Rocket Launcher
1 Spartan Laser
1 Sword
1 Shotgun
1 Gravity Hammer (Symmetric games only)
2 Turrets

Equipment:
1 Overshield
1 Active Camo
1 Power Drain
1 Bubble Shield
1 Grav Lift
1 Firebomb
Several Plasma and Spike Grenades

Alright, I really want everyone to check this map out, play on it, tell me what you think. I put forth a whole lot of effort on making everything as perfect as I could. I haven't gotten to play any custom games with more than one or two people as I don't have many xbox live friends to play customs with, so I need testers and constructive criticism. If you want to play me in some custom games on my map, send me a friend request.

Version 1.1 Update - List of Changes

Weapon and Equipment Changes
- Swapped Shotgun with Grav Lift. This accomplshes three things:
1. Makes shotgun more accessible to both teams in asymmetrical games.
2. Makes it harder for one team to get both shotgun and sword.
3. Grav Lift is now in a more central location of the map.
Players are more free to choose where to use it, rather than feeling obligated to drop it where it spawns.
It is now more challenging to get up to the staircase with the Overshield and double man-cannon.
- Swapped Maulers with SMG's:
1. Puts Maulers further away from Shotgun.
2. Dual SMG's just feel better on the floor.
- Removed Gravity Hammer from Asymmetrical games (this is now where single bombs spawn, and single flags are returned to)
- Removed Weapon Holder under Sword and leaned it agaist the DANGER wall. (saved me $3)
- Used that $3 to add two plasma grenades down the long hallway with the Hammer, and one spike grenade between Sword and Grav Lift.
- Slightly moved Plasma Rifle that wasn't in the exact center of the double box it's in. (obsessive compulsive weapon straightening)
- Adjusted respawn times on certain weapons and the grav lift.

Spawner and Objective Changes
- Added more respawn points in more logical areas, removed some from bad areas.
- Added starting locations for Asymmetrical games, now the map works great for One Flag CTF and single bomb Assault games.
- Adjusted Flag and Bomb spawns, fixed a critical flaw in neutral bomb spawn.

Structural Changes (that nobody would probably notice but me)
- Fixed top floor alignment problem on Sniper side by flipping two walls over (double walls don't line up right unless the same side is facing up on all of them)
- Straightened center u-shaped partition wall (or tried to, wall corners move slightly for some reason when you restart the map)
- Slightly adjusted single box and bridges leading to double man-cannon stairway.
- Moved forklift a couple inches to make jumps just a little easier, and for symmetry with the truck.

Ok when did i steal your designed please tell me?
And how did I?
Answer then 2 ? please

[SaLoT]

Also you ignorant kid i don't need to steal any design i guess you going to say i stole REFINERY design to?

How about FRACTION?
How about XCREATION?
How about Eplitation?

[SQEEkS07]

wow

[SaLoT]

And also how can i get your map to get a map you must be able to sign into bungie and i can't sign into bungie for 3 weeks now do to server problems with them i don't even have a service record show up do to the fact i had my buddy check to make sure it was not me.

[MLG_KonArtist]

wow 1st. off salot isn't an a hole, second there are a lot of maps that share smiliar ideas.

[MasterWizard]

Ok, dudes, stop kissing his ass. He's a thief. He didn't change the description of the map he stole, it says the SAME EXACT THING THAT I TYPED. He changed about 10% of the structure, and rearranged the weapons. Don't be blind dumbasses, look at my map, then look at his map. My map was made first, his map was stolen from me. He didn't "use my ideas", he used my structure, the bridges and boxes that I painstaking layed down, except he used forge interlocking tricks to slightly clean a few places up, and he flipped the boxes upside down. Look at the little pointy roof house on, that alone I spent at least an hour on because it was a ***** to get everything to line up right. Notice there is about an inch of overhang on the right edge of the top, which is as good as I could get it. Notice the ENTIRE STRUCTURE, the upstairs catwalks....oooooh guess what dude, I messed up on one side of the catwalks because I put 2 double walls upside down, so the double lines don't match up with the rest of the catwalk. I corrected that in my version 2, but you didn't. Face it, you are just a lying piece of crap, and that's all you ever will be.

And I don't give a damn about your other maps, they are of no concern to me, I have no interest in them whatsoever. I happened to come to this site, I happened to click on your map post, I happened to click on the link to your fileshare. Then I saw MY description typed the EXACT SAME WAY, verbatim, but with your title. I downloaded, opened it up, and its 100% definitely my map. I'm sure now you'll probably backtrack and remove it from your fileshare or try and conceal the evidence.

[MLG_KonArtist]

I think you need to just breathe—ok so you have a map and then someone moves stuff, changes stuff, and reworks it. Thanks is what looks like happen. So yes it seems to be he used more then just a few of your ideas. I have not seen Slot post this map as his own creation. Like in my file share I have a remake of prisoner made by predator. I have reworked it, fixed a few things, and my name come up as the author, but I do not take credit for the map.

The way I see it you have a good map, salot saw that, however realized that changes need to be made to have it as a competitive arena, the result, the non- endorsed MLG items and weapons have been removed and yes it has been cleaned up.

Now if salot then made a post or had made a post that was stating this as an original idea, well then we have a problem.

[Knil]

Well wizard is telling the truth... Salot took an orginal design and modified it to his own. To point it out even clearer to MLG and their staff. there are a few key things to point out. Both maps have the same things in the same exact spot.

For EXAMPLE:
1. Wizards 02 base has these windows at the top and the right window object is pushed out an inch. Same with Salot's.
2. Spawns near Sword base are the same.
3. Go to 01 base and look at the bridge. The box and bridge line up at the lines on the box. Same with Salot's.
4. Crate on 02 base is in the EXACT SAME SPOT.

No doubt in my mind that he Downloaded this map varient, edited it to his liking, and put a name on it. This IS plagarizing and this should be taken care of immediatley. Salot, You're a cool guy, but this was an ignorant thing to do.

EVERYONE O CHECK FOR YOURSELF I AM PUTTIN THEM ONTO MY PROFILE AFTER THIS POST SO THEY CAN CHANGE WHAT THEY MADE! MERIDIAN IS THE TRUE MAP!

Gamertag: L LG Dr Knil L

[Knil]

His supposively original idea btw

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147069

[SaLoT]

His supposively original idea btw

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147069

i going to brake this down a fast as i can i guess you don't read very well i just wrote in fine letters that there is no way i could of took you designed do to the fact i can't view or download from bungie do to server problems hence thats the only way i can get halo 3 maps. now have and said that i also stated that i posted this on bungie over a month ago when foundry first came out now i deleted it to make updates but never could go publish it back do to the fact i can't see my fileshare or my freaking service record now because we have similar ideas i can also post my first forged map that was also similar to this map but trash it. but here is video of what this map look like and i rearranged it to make a whole different map now whats called fraction.
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Now you also can see in my other maps that i have used multi levels in my maps. like creation and i also stated i got the idea off killa kc shown here.

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Now have and tried to explain my self i did not steal your map and to be honest is one of the worst maps i have ever made and if you want to come in here and bash me for my map and say i stole it then feel free to do so but go look at 80 % of the maps and you will find that a lot of people took my ideas and made great maps but yet i never flamed them because 2 people can have a idea that is similar.
like me and eric0 had also made maps the look similar to each other and he posted a comment looks like mine and knowing that 80% of the maps that get forged on here look similar in a lot of way's because of the designed of the map.
Also check out this thread his bottom is similar yours to i guess he stole it to

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147259

OMG this kid has a top level like yours need to go and flame him to.
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146452

Also this one has your idea also.
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147254

Example
If someone cuts half the map off and then another guy cuts half of a map off and both have 2 bases does that mean he stole his map? No it does not. And if you want to sit here and try to make me look bad i don't need your help on that i do fine by myself.

Now i have had help on this map from my buddy's that gave me idea's and i work with them now i have a map that looks similar to yours sorry for me using my imagination. And also using my friends idea's when they get presented to me. And if i could sign into bungie i would of probably posted my map in your thread saying you have the similar map as me but you can log into bungie and here and view your profile i can not so yo come in here to flame me go ahead i know and 8 different people that help me with this map knows different i will not reply to your comments or post no more because this is ignorant.

Thanks.

[MasterWizard]

No man, this is unacceptable. Thank you for posting his supposedly original thread, I couldn't find it before, but it's bookmarked. Your response just now is B.S., because that is not the map in question. Too bad for you, I downloaded your map, so I'll put it in my fileshare, with YOUR name on it, so people can compare and see how much of a lying asshole you are. You know, maybe if you had talked to me and told me that you liked my map and wanted to change a few things to make it MLG compatible, I MIGHT have been down with that. But no, you lie, and you claim my hard work as your own.

I'm sorry MLG dudes, if I am over-reacting a little. But this is probably going to be the last map I ever make, and possibly the last time I even use the Forge. Working hard on something like this is just not worth it, if people are just going to steal it and ruin it, in my opinion you took out everything that is fun and original about my map, so I hope you enjoy your watered down MLG version. Just don't claim it as your own, its too late now, everybody here knows you're a liar, and I wouldn't be surprised if every one of your maps is stolen, not "borrowed ideas" but stolen. But I don't care about those maps and I'm not even going to take the time to look at screenshots, much less download, and I feel that nobody else here should either.

The guy that posted a link to your "original" thread has just brought all the evidence, but give me a few minutes and I can even add it to my fileshare so others can compare, criticize, and bash you because you're a map thief.

[MasterWizard]

Ok, its in my fileshare (http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=MasterWizard%20ED) now, with YOUR name on it. There are also 4 screenshots of MY map dated 12/24/07, so feast on that, *****.

[g1mps4uc3]

Ok, its in my fileshare (http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=MasterWizard%20ED) now, with YOUR name on it. There are also 4 screenshots of MY map dated 12/24/08, so feast on that, *****.

i love you

[T3st1fy]

Your map sucks soooo much more than saLot's though... I mean... yours is just BAD. The maps are very different... your just a retard man.

[Knil]

you must think we are all stupid... omg if you actually wanted this person's map and your bungie login was down (not the server because mine was fine) then all you need was a FRIENDD TO DL IT FOR YOU and you can save the recent maps. Plain and simple. It isn't impossible and if you think we are that stupid enough to believe your little alliby then your wrong. Seriously everyone on the forums, if you read this, go to either mine or wizards bungie login and DL both maps and see for yourself. take my examples i had given on page 1 to be your guide and crack this problem on your own. It doesn't take a genious to figure out this one. I hope the MLG staff don't ignore this problem either.

[MasterWizard]

Your map sucks soooo much more than saLot's though... I mean... yours is just BAD. The maps are very different... your just a retard man.
Whatever dude.

[MasterWizard]

Alright MLG staff, I received the warnings about my language and attitude and I humbly apologize. I went back and cleaned up my language in all the threads, but unfortunately can't clean up people's quotes of me. Maybe I overreacted, but this guy's lying attitude got to me. If he was straight up and honest with me I would have been more civil. I just wanted justice to be served, I wanted people to recognize my efforts as being the original map, he should be eliminated from any map contests for stealing and lying. I realize now that my attitude may have made me look like the bad guy, but I was pretty angry at the time. So, sorry about that, my bad.

[SaLoT]

Alright MLG staff, I received the warnings about my language and attitude and I humbly apologize. I went back and cleaned up my language in all the threads, but unfortunately can't clean up people's quotes of me. Maybe I overreacted, but this guy's lying attitude got to me. If he was straight up and honest with me I would have been more civil. I just wanted justice to be served, I wanted people to recognize my efforts as being the original map, he should be eliminated from any map contests for stealing and lying. I realize now that my attitude may have made me look like the bad guy, but I was pretty angry at the time. So, sorry about that, my bad.

well first off kid my map REFINERY is what is being submitted for the contest the rest of MY maps are and was just for fun. And know one stole your map get over it.

[ALIENwolve]

well first off kid my map REFINERY is what is being submitted for the contest the rest of MY maps are and was just for fun. And know one stole your map get over it.Delete the "kid" and retype the "know" plzyplz.

[He_Who_Remains]

SaLot, there is overwhelming evidence that says you stole it. If you are going to use someone's map and polish up for tournment play, thats fine. But you should do two things when you do that.

1. Contact the original author and tell him what you plan to do.
2. Give the origninal author partial credit.

Its pretty much a given, based on what I've read, that you started with his map and tweaked it. At least admit it. Your being a douche about it.

[sstRico]

You made some other decent map so you should save your face while it's still the time. Nice steal...I love karma.

[TxHxG_PWNS]

uhhh-mazing
+++++++++++++rep

[TxHxG_PWNS]

Delete the "kid" and retype the "know" plzyplz.

lol your corrections and sig make me chuckle

[aMaZinG]

Ok, dudes, stop kissing his ass. He's a thief. He didn't change the description of the map he stole, it says the SAME EXACT THING THAT I TYPED. He changed about 10% of the structure, and rearranged the weapons. Don't be blind dumbasses, look at my map, then look at his map. My map was made first, his map was stolen from me. He didn't "use my ideas", he used my structure, the bridges and boxes that I painstaking layed down, except he used forge interlocking tricks to slightly clean a few places up, and he flipped the boxes upside down. Look at the little pointy roof house on, that alone I spent at least an hour on because it was a ***** to get everything to line up right. Notice there is about an inch of overhang on the right edge of the top, which is as good as I could get it. Notice the ENTIRE STRUCTURE, the upstairs catwalks....oooooh guess what dude, I messed up on one side of the catwalks because I put 2 double walls upside down, so the double lines don't match up with the rest of the catwalk. I corrected that in my version 2, but you didn't. Face it, you are just a lying piece of crap, and that's all you ever will be.

And I don't give a damn about your other maps, they are of no concern to me, I have no interest in them whatsoever. I happened to come to this site, I happened to click on your map post, I happened to click on the link to your fileshare. Then I saw MY description typed the EXACT SAME WAY, verbatim, but with your title. I downloaded, opened it up, and its 100% definitely my map. I'm sure now you'll probably backtrack and remove it from your fileshare or try and conceal the evidence.


If it makes you feel better, I believe you. I bet half the maps on here are stolen from people that dont go to these forums. The only bad thing is that the one he "stole" from you is not really that good. I wish bungie would have made so that the author of a map never changes. That way this stuff wouldnt happen.

[Knil]

well first off kid my map REFINERY is what is being submitted for the contest the rest of MY maps are and was just for fun. And know one stole your map get over it.

IS that so? Well from the looks of it, you have a total of four submitted into the forge contest. that totaly goes against what you just said. if they were just for fun, then they shouldn't be posted in this thread. You can seriously report me as much as you want, i don't care because this is a stupid forum and people like you are in here. Your description itself for reaction is by far ignorant. 100+ hours? Thats over 4 days and you're telling me that your spent that amount of time on one single level? I don't believe it especially since you have to constantly post on forums and take care of your daily routines in real life. You'll you do anything to win this contest and that is plain rediculous.

Why i take this so seriously is because of the fact that I had a classmate plagarize and act the same way you do. He did get caught and you will too... Its only a matter of time and you know it. And these guys who suck up to Salot, Think for yourself.

Again i am strongly asking everyone to DL the maps and look at it for yourself. You'll see the truth and use my guide on page 1 for easy things to pick out that are exactly the same.

[Gr4y FoX]

crazy **** yo

[Deimos]

Please keep the arguing off the forums.

If you feel the need to argue or flame eachother, please do it through another means such as PM's, AIM, etc.

Thanks