Glitches, Tricks, and Tips. **ASK QUESTIONS HERE**

[Mephisto]

Glitches


Merging objects together
1. Set the first object you want to merge*

2. Point at the object and press X

3. Set RESPAWN RATE to "180"

4. Set PLACE AT START to "No"

5. Back out , then press start > START NEW ROUND

6. Set the second object in the spot you want it to merge into the first object

7. Set an object that is the same as the first object you placed (it doesn't matter where you set this one)

8. Point at that object, then press X twice

9. Set RUN TIME MINIMUM to match the number PLACED ON MAP (which is right above)

10. Quickly point at the first object and set PLACE AT START to "Yes"

11. Then set the RUN TIME MINIMUM back to zero

*you may want to surround the base object with placeholders to get a clean looking merge

VIDEO (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/sbZgeu50krU.html)




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Setting objects in mid-air
1. Hold an object in mid-air anywhere, it doesn't matter where

2. Press start > SAVE CHANGES > END GAME

3. Start over, your object will be in place wherever you were holding it when you saved

VIDEO (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/vQeufpwP9jM.html)




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Geo-glitching
This one is hard to explain, just watch the video.

VIDEO (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/yUZKH2o28h0.html)

[Mephisto]

Tricks

Creating walkways:


VIDEO (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/MIDVxdgek5I.html)




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Getting rid of bumps:

VIDEO (http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/ksulpP5xmaGESM.html)

[Mephisto]

Links

Tutorials

Tutorial Master Index (Beginner to Advanced)
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9349


Other

Guidelines for building a Competitive Map
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168793

Forge Gamertag List
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169493

Faster Forging
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167963

Explanation of Emergency Spawns
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143306

Advanced merging techniques
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/forging-101/36128-advanced-interlocking-merging.html

Advanced Geo-glitching techniques
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/forging-101/45944-advanced-merging-techniques.html

Effective spawn placement
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/forging-101/24-effective-spawn-placement.html

[Mephisto]

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[-ImplosioN-]

Holy s*** I love you... making the walkway like that is gonna help me so much! Seriously so will this kind of geo glitching. the way I was doing it was taking forever and was really hard to control. Thanks bro! +rep

[GoneSoYoung87]

Awesome tutorials, very well done. Its really cool to see in video how to do some of these things rather than just text. I just learned how to geo-glitch, and your video made it seem a lot easier now that i've seen it done more efficiently.

I was listening to "Drunken Lullabies" by Flogging Molly during the geo-glitch video, and for some reason i thought it was a perfect song for the video, almost like it went with it. Don't ask why, it just felt right.

[iM_xZonKeD]

Yo in a couple of weeks i will be making a tutorial on how to do The Curvature Effect if you want. But very nice post man.

[Baron Saturday]

Great Post man, and love the walkways tut.

[MILeZ_Per_HoUR]

thanks really helpful:)

[Status]

Awesome. Especially the geo-glitch tutorial.

Thanks guys.

[FireArm]

Thanks very much. I never really thought about the stairs thing, it's really helpfull.

[Dutycalls]

hey i just looked on the forge hub thing and they said they have a pre glitched foundry [money glitch that is], and my brother doesn't wanna take the time to do that. neither do i.

does anyone have a pre budget glitched foundry?? if so, PLEASE PM it to me. that would be ****ing golden. thanks a million bros.

[Ba]

About the icons, i.e arrow, exclamtion, question mark, thumbs up, thumbs down, who decides? The people that download them? The thread creator? MLG?

[zakboo]

About the icons, i.e arrow, exclamtion, question mark, thumbs up, thumbs down, who decides? The people that download them? The thread creator? MLG?



The thread creator decides

[-NaStY-]

New trick for floating any and all objects:

1. place object you want floating somewhere near it's end location
2. Press X
3. Hold Back
4. While still holding back, approach the object you want, press A to pick it up
5. Position it as desired
6. Let go of Back
7. Press A to spawn another object - the original object should fall to the ground, but its spawn cone should be in the air where you had it.
8. Delete new object.

[Mephisto]

New trick for floating any and all objects:

1. place object you want floating somewhere near it's end location
2. Press X
3. Hold Back
4. While still holding back, approach the object you want, press A to pick it up
5. Position it as desired
6. Let go of Back
7. Press A to spawn another object - the original object should fall to the ground, but its spawn cone should be in the air where you had it.
8. Delete new object.
yea, i saw that over at forgehub, but it's hard to position because you cant use the right thumbstick. it's a lot easier to use the save quit method, but i guess it is pretty useful if the piece is lined up perfectly beforehand

[-NaStY-]

yea, i saw that over at forgehub, but it's hard to position because you cant use the right thumbstick. it's a lot easier to use the save quit method, but i guess it is pretty useful if the piece is lined up perfectly beforehand

I figure it's good for drop-spawning weapons, but besides that I suppose it is rather useless.

[GelatiCruiser]

All of this will be super helpful...I'm just pissed I didn't scope these out before I started making my map.....definitely gives me some sweet ideas though! Thanks.

[MLG_KonArtist]

Forge Flash Designer (http://www.freewebs.com/foundrydesigner/)

this is a designer program that i found on forgehub. Made by Purecallum, It should be helpful to a few of you.

[nickthill5]

yeah thanks alot they were good vids it helped me



+REP

[A_Killdozer]

how do you put stuff into the ground and walls

[Mephisto]

how do you put stuff into the ground and walls
watch the third video

[O combatcarl O]

I'm haveing alot of trouble getting the geo gliched boxes level

any tips

[Egress]

What exactly is the advantage of geo glitching objects into the maps? I dont quite understand .....thanks

[Daybb]

About geo-glitching.
you can get rid of gaps between your boxes and the maps geometry to prevent alternate routes to certain areas, you can make it more symmetrical if the map has something in the way you can build THROUGH it, you can build into the floor to lower objects to a specific height to remove 'bumps', and much more, its really up to your imagination what you can do, but those are the main few things.

and
I'm haveing alot of trouble getting the geo gliched boxes level

any tips
Use other boxes to level them out, there is a method of geoglitching (the way we did it before doors) that lets you do pretty much anything, look it up on forge hub, they can explain it better than I can.

[TGCMorfine]

When i try to merge my objects into foundry, most of the time foundry just sucks up my object and then it goes all crazy and dissapear into the wall....got a solution??

[Mephisto]

When i try to merge my objects into foundry, most of the time foundry just sucks up my object and then it goes all crazy and dissapear into the wall....got a solution??
This is a slightly different method than the one above. http://www.forgehub.com/?pageid=miomg

[TGCMorfine]

that method doesent work at all...i've been practising that method shown in the video here and i think i got it, it takes alot of time to get it in the right position though...are Amplified and Onslaught made this way?? it must have taken alot of time to do that cuz these guys just merged stuff ito the walls in mid-air, dunno how they do that though.....:roll:

[Mephisto]

if you use the method shown above you run the risk of the object merging too deep into the wall/floor. that's why they dissappear. if you use the other method you have more control, it just takes longer.

[Woodland_King]

Sweet, this is awesome but when i place my boxes there is no tear drop to click on? Why not?

[Daybb]

start new round, if you just went into game and cant click on object it hasnt spawned yet, just start new round and set another of the same object to auto spawn and it will be there.

[Mephisto]

Sweet, this is awesome but when i place my boxes there is no tear drop to click on? Why not?
flip it over

[ItzTuEasy]

wow Thank You!

[HeChT.X]

NIce post............very helpful

[II CHICKSTER II]

I'm having a difficult time with geolocking multiple boxes. Whenever i get one box set in place (say, the corner of foundry), the box i geolock next to it is never the same height as the first, or it is crooked, or maybe a small part of the box is in the floor. I'm currently working on a map variant that requires a lot of this, and I was hoping you all could give me some tips or advice. I usually use single/double boxes, bridges, and walls to secure the box i want to geolock. Would you say using teleporters and weapon holders are better for securing? What kind of methods do you use to get geolocked boxes even and straight? I have seen a lot of maps (Impact v2, Confined v2, .Lastshot, to name a few) that have perfectly seamless geolocked boxes. I would like to have my maps the same. Any help is greatly appriciated. Thanks.

Oh, when I say Geo-Locking I mean Geo-Glitching. 8)

[Echo.SQ.Leader]

wow, i did the geoglitch a different way, and this is a lot easier, 10x easier :mrgreen:

[fanatic66]

I have a major problem. I almost finished with my map but I can't spawn anything except respawn points. Every items' runtime maximum is stuck and I can't change it. BTW I'm using the infinite $ glitch.

I've tried deleting items and setting the run time minimum to the run time max but nothing works.

Someone please help because I spent forever on this map and I don't want it to be all a waste.

[Mephisto]

I have a major problem. I almost finished with my map but I can't spawn anything except respawn points. Every items' runtime maximum is stuck and I can't change it. BTW I'm using the infinite $ glitch.

I've tried deleting items and setting the run time minimum to the run time max but nothing works.

Someone please help because I spent forever on this map and I don't want it to be all a waste.
Yea, that's what happens when you use the money glitch. I don't know of any way to reverse it except to start over without using the glitch. That's why nobody does it.

[fanatic66]

Yea, that's what happens when you use the money glitch. I don't know of any way to reverse it except to start over without using the glitch. That's why nobody does it.

I was afraid I might get that respone. :(

Thanks for answering me though. I guess I have to start over. That's the last time I use the money glitch.

[INovaK]

I was afraid I might get that respone. :(

Thanks for answering me though. I guess I have to start over. That's the last time I use the money glitch.

There is a way to fix it, Ive read people talking about it on Forge Hub but I dont know it. Im sure if you posted and werent a **** about it youd eventually find help. I know what it feels like to have the inf money glitch mess everything up though, hopefully you get this figured out

[jiu_heathen]

good job + rep for making the whole forum easy to understand

[CommonLight]

This will help SOO much thanks alot guys. I would have never thought of these methods on my own.

[d3mos]

I suck at forge. I can't even get the save quit glitch to work. I'm just trying to make a simple Guardian jump map and place some crates in the air to save me from falling off while practicing the S1 to S2 jump. Anytime I do the save quit glitch when I restart the game the box isn't there. Do you have to do this on a map that you've already saved before?

[Pyroteq]

The Forge Pallet Spreadsheet link appears to be dead. Does anyone have a copy of this? If you like I can host it on my file server.

[aHhHtMoSfEaR]

Wow...

[NanakiXIII13]

I suck at forge. I can't even get the save quit glitch to work. I'm just trying to make a simple Guardian jump map and place some crates in the air to save me from falling off while practicing the S1 to S2 jump. Anytime I do the save quit glitch when I restart the game the box isn't there. Do you have to do this on a map that you've already saved before?

The reason why its not working, is that crates are movable objects, unlike objects in the newer maps. On newer maps, there are objects that, when placed, stop moving and become completely unmovable except in forge. Crates, are never supposed to stay in midair. Try doing the save quit glitch with a Teleporter then putting the crate on top of it, there's pretty much no other way.:-?

[Fritzster]

Sabaoths foundry pallet spreadsheet link still errors "File not found!"

If someone has it, let me know I'll be on AIM.

[Dragod]

I'm thinking tomorrow I'm going to model the Foundry template in Autodesk Inventor. It's a much better program, and much easier to make objects do what you want and be exact with it... The only problem is that the Program is VERY expensive. I have a copy of it though, and I'll upload the files for anyone who can get their hands on a copy of Inventor. Also, realize that Inventor has a relatively steep learning curve, but for the basics of mating surfaces and offsetting, it will be easy after the objects are modeled.

I hope to use the same dimensions that the original template used, but if I am going to be able to add more items (Wall Corners, doors, wire spools, etc), I need to know how the items were measured. Once I get all of the vital objects modeled, making maps on the computer will be much easier for anyone who can get a copy of the software and have a computer that can handle it.

[DarkReplay]

How do I get spawns to set for each different team, and which team is red or blue (attacker defender). And how do I make the people spawn at a certain spot at the beginning.

[Dragod]

How do I get spawns to set for each different team, and which team is red or blue (attacker defender). And how do I make the people spawn at a certain spot at the beginning.
To place starting points, hit Start > Change Gametype > Slayer > hit X > Spawn Points > Starting Point

[MythicGrunt]

The walkway trick was really sweet.

Awesome work guys!

[liev]

OMG now I can finally fix my bridges with that tip!!! Thanks allot for the walkway glitch! I tried to teach myself and I feel like I know it all, but this is just awesome thanks again.

Another thing, how do you do the budget trick. I know I could do so much with standoff if I had a larger budget budget.

[hellpark]

how do you guys line things up perfectly. its so pain staking. is it just extreme patience till you get it?
my way is once i put up something like a box, id put a wall behind it, but have some of the wall stick out. that way i just push up another box onto it. but is there any better way

[Viktim]

i searched ad could not find a blank foundry does somebody have a completely empty foundry in their fileshare

[Mephisto]

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=15270995

[Viktim]

thank you

[liev]

hey some1 told me there was a budget glitch, like you spawn your whole budget outside the map or something? Is this true? If so how do I do it? ;)

[.KID.iaci.]

I need help geo glitching a Fence Box into walls when they are standing upright. Is there a trick to it?

Thanks

[L.7]

how do u put objects so they are half in the ground

[DeDaW]

Thank you so much! Definitely going to spend some time forging and come up with a map! :)

[Effed]

Ok, so today since Live has been down, I've ben putting the finishing touches on my version of MLG Epilogue 1.0. It's turning out great, but have yet to test it due to Live being down. Now, I got all my weapon placement down, and set all my spawns up, however my starting spawns are messed up. Red team and Blue team spawn nowhere near where I set them to start. Anyone know how to make "starting spawns". What am I doing wrong here?

[Dismojoe]

Is there any way to put more objects than forge originally allows? For example, can we put more crates than the restricted amount?

[iM_xZonKeD]

Is there any way to put more objects than forge originally allows? For example, can we put more crates than the restricted amount?
No only thing that stretches foundry's limit is the budget glitched map which gives you unlimited budget. As i know there is no way to get more materials then foundry supplies you with. That would be sweet thoughh....

[ZeFo]

Either im retarded or i cannot find what im looking for. Im gonna attempt a sketchup but i cant find a file with all the items pre made and just need placing. The spreadsheet link sends me to a thread with a link that sends me to a broken file.

[yourself.]

How do I geo-glitch a wall/wall duble into the wall at double box height?

[Zanno]

Does anyone have a good measurement to put a box on top of a shield door overlapping as little as possible?

[yourself.]

Does anyone have a good measurement to put a box on top of a shield door overlapping as little as possible?
Try a vertical dumpster, 3 fence walls and a wall. That should do it

[DeathstarsOG]

Here's some info on what i have learned about starting spawns related to teams/colors.

Blue team is attackers and red team are the defenders. The only gametype MLG supports that gaurentees that the correct color team will spawn in there set side is CTF. Defenders(red) will always spawn/start on defenders spawn points and attackers(blue) will always spawn on attackers spawn/start points.
Now in slayer/oddball and KOTH, blue team and red team will randomly switch sides so there is no way to tell. To set these starting spawns correctly, you must be in monitor mode and select the change gametype option to the gametype you desire. Then go through your objects menu by hitting "X" and find the spawn list. When you select the start spawn place it where wanted then hit x on it again to adjust the settings.

I usually layout 4 defender starting spawns, 4 attacker and a starting point for 3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th/8th team for FFA and team games.

[FL1Psyde]

how do i Geo bridges into other bridges and into the map walls itself?

[iM_xZonKeD]

Memphisto, if i gave you some more videos and some more tricks and tips and all that good stuff could you update this thread. They would be more advanced forging techniques...

[HITtheLIGHTZ]

Clearly we still don't know everything about forge. Someone at forge hub has found a useful way to geo without using doors.

Link: http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-forge-discussion/46688-geomerging-without-doors.html

[squidhands]

^^You can use window panels too in place of doors, for those who don't know. They offer a little different merge depth than doors do and since they don't cost anything, they're great in a pinch when you're running low on budget and need a couple of final merges.

[-NaStY-]

Clearly we still don't know everything about forge. Someone at forge hub has found a useful way to geo without using doors.

Link: http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-forge-discussion/46688-geomerging-without-doors.html


Oh..my....god.



So rotation (not movement) after letting go of the right trigger isn't recorded if you save and quit? Is it possible this is responsible for the crooked double box problem?

[HITtheLIGHTZ]

Oh..my....god.



So rotation (not movement) after letting go of the right trigger isn't recorded if you save and quit? Is it possible this is responsible for the crooked double box problem?

Assuming this works (which several well known FH people have confirmed it does) than yes thats exactly what it means and exactly why they were having problems. Wow, I didn't even of the further implications of this after reading it.

In addition this is also a completely new way to geo, once we find a way to line this style of geo up accurately then I could see this being really useful particularly for merging into the sides of foundry, and for making wall/bridge ramps.

Crazy this was a few days away from a year after foundry's release.

[WheezyMoney]

Assuming this works (which several well known FH people have confirmed it does) than yes thats exactly what it means and exactly why they were having problems. Wow, I didn't even of the further implications of this after reading it.

In addition this is also a completely new way to geo, once we find a way to line this style of geo up accurately then I could see this being really useful particularly for merging into the sides of foundry, and for making wall/bridge ramps.

Crazy this was a few days away from a year after foundry's release.


it will mae ramps so much easier

[-NaStY-]

Fritzster and I just tested this extensively. It works, and beautifully.


With this technique, your object is always aligned perfectly. And using some creative forging, you can basically do any geo with perfect accuracy. We got a double box ramp, along with a pyramid.

Not only is it faster, it's more precise. Forging just got way cooler.

[theeckounltd]

Fritzster and I just tested this extensively. It works, and beautifully.


With this technique, your object is always aligned perfectly. And using some creative forging, you can basically do any geo with perfect accuracy. We got a double box ramp, along with a pyramid.

Not only is it faster, it's more precise. Forging just got way cooler.
now if we can flip the box over ;x

back 2 brasicz on forging.

[yourself.]

Would somebody be able to make a tut video on how to do it?

[xCHAMPi0Nx]

Fritzster and I just tested this extensively. It works, and beautifully.


With this technique, your object is always aligned perfectly. And using some creative forging, you can basically do any geo with perfect accuracy. We got a double box ramp, along with a pyramid.

Not only is it faster, it's more precise. Forging just got way cooler.

Could you post a link to the video so i can see how you forged certain objects.

right now i am stuck on my map becasue i can not get two bridges into almost perfectly similar ramps.

[Soulful_Spitin]

is there a specific reason y we have to grab from the tear drop??

[squidhands]

is there a specific reason y we have to grab from the tear drop??
You don't have to necessarily grab from the teardrop, but it's the part of your object that you want to move when you shove it against your geometry. The location of the teardrop when you save/quit is where the object will align itself when you start a new game. That's why it is critical that you don't rotate the object at all from it's intended position. Hope that was clear enough.

[smitty0018]

I was just wondering if there was any certain trick to getting angled merges at the right custom height?

[LOL_CraNiuIVI]

oh wow thank you so much

[StraightLogic]

How do you make those screen shots that say a word and it's all weird colors?

[Mango221]

How do you make those screen shots that say a word and it's all weird colors?

Photoshop?

-Mango

[WheezyMoney]

Photoshop?

-Mango



wrong.



zonked knows how.

-wheezy

[I_Knossos_I]

Hey im getting to be very good at making maps and now im working on an assymetrical one. It has a lot of geod double box ramps but i still need help to figure out how to make them geo at certain heights (box height, door height, etc). Im wondering if anyone here has a tutorial or video or better yet could send me a friend request and show me how to do it over xbox live. Any help would be much appreciated!

GT: I Knossos I

[.KID.iaci.]

Question: How do I take pictures of my Sketch-up Map?

[nicka]

Question: How do I take pictures of my Sketch-up Map?

Position tht view where you want to take the picture using the orbit and pan tools, then hit:

File > Export > 2D Graphic

and then save it to your computer

[.KID.iaci.]

^^^Thanks Man.

[xPwno]

im currently forging a map.
i have great ideas but its stuff i cannot do yet, i just started forging yesterday, its easy stuff so if anyone wants to help me out ill give oyu 100% credit for anything you do, i want to see what the community has to say about my try at a map. please if anyone can help. anyone who knows how to GEOMERGE WELL, please hit me up!

Gt- NeptuneR EH

[paperfunk]

hey, just a quick question. how do you place the flag placement points? like where u pick up the flag and where u carry it to. im makin a ctf map in forge and i wanna know how to change the placement of these.

[nicka]

hey, just a quick question. how do you place the flag placement points? like where u pick up the flag and where u carry it to. im makin a ctf map in forge and i wanna know how to change the placement of these.

Go into monitor mode,
hit start,
scroll down to change gametype,
choose "capture the flag"
once the new round has started, go into monitor mode,
scroll over to tab 6 of the item pallete,
Flag spawn and flag cap points should be in that list

[paperfunk]

thank you! ive been wonderin how to do that for a while now.

[Spade193]

Does anyone know how to geo-merge something into the wall in the crypt area of sandbox?

[b0b43]

Does anyone know how to geo-merge something into the wall in the crypt area of sandbox?

Did you ever geomerge anything in Foundry without using doors? People these days....

Anyways, place whatever you want next merged next to the crypt wall. Set it so it doesn't spawn at start. Place another box at the distance that you want the merge. Spawn the first item again by instant respawn, and brace. Start new round, hold the item you want merged, and the box will push it into the wall. Voila!

Just be carefull that the teardrop isn't in the wall. I've heard reports that if that is geomerged, the box will push itself back up so that the teardrop is visible again, effectively cancelling your merge.

[Spade193]

Thanks and I thought that you could only geo-merge things by using the doors but i guess not

[Fritzster]

The teardrop method of forging is a must while forging in the crypt. I think you're right about that teardrop glitch Bob. Salty and I have had a heck of a time regeoing a ton of geomtery because it comes back to normal after the game save. It makes sense now that you say that.

[Jackass_Jon]

The teardrop method of forging is a must while forging in the crypt. I think you're right about that teardrop glitch Bob. Salty and I have had a heck of a time regeoing a ton of geomtery because it comes back to normal after the game save. It makes sense now that you say that.

Mango figured out awhile ago that the teardrop side of the objects cannot be underneath.inside map geometry. If you try to do it that way, he said it will be fine until you come bak in after starting a new round/game and the object will have "popped" back out.

[Matrixx.J]

Right now I'm remaking a map i could not finish in foundry in the sky bubble. But, I can't tell if double boxes on sandbox are the same length as the double boxes in foundry. I know they arent the exact same dimensions because sandbox DB's have the same width/height, while foundry DB's are taller than they are wide. So can anyone tell me if they are the same length? thanks.

[Saito_Chikara]

Hey, Awesome thread.

I have a question.

You know how people can have over $1500 worth of things in their forges? Well, I've come to direly need help. I've been working on my map for about a month now, and it's no-where near done. (I'm working on Sandbox, by the way.) So, My question is.. With the Latest Halo3 update from Live, is there anyway I can get the Unlimited Forge Cash without having to start fresh all over again? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Mephisto]

Right now I'm remaking a map i could not finish in foundry in the sky bubble. But, I can't tell if double boxes on sandbox are the same length as the double boxes in foundry. I know they arent the exact same dimensions because sandbox DB's have the same width/height, while foundry DB's are taller than they are wide. So can anyone tell me if they are the same length? thanks.
All I know is that they are the same length, i dont know about width. In foundry if you put a grav lift next to a double box that's standing up, you had to crouch jump to make it to the top. It's the same thing with sandbox.



Hey, Awesome thread.

I have a question.

You know how people can have over $1500 worth of things in their forges? Well, I've come to direly need help. I've been working on my map for about a month now, and it's no-where near done. (I'm working on Sandbox, by the way.) So, My question is.. With the Latest Halo3 update from Live, is there anyway I can get the Unlimited Forge Cash without having to start fresh all over again? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
No, you would have to start over. :(

[Classsic]

i should of checked out forums awhile back cuz it took me a while to figure out how to merge good info.

[CHemling]

Hey I was just making a casual infection map for some friends and ran into a problem. I placed sentinel beams on the map and they show up in forge, but when I go play it in custom games the weapons are never there. Anyone know how to fix this problem?

[yourself.]

Hey I was just making a casual infection map for some friends and ran into a problem. I placed sentinel beams on the map and they show up in forge, but when I go play it in custom games the weapons are never there. Anyone know how to fix this problem?

its possible that your infection variant has its "weapons on map" settings changed to a specific type of weapon (rifles/ snipers/ duals) if so, just change it to the setting that says "map default. "

[xXsidewind3r]

great thread man! very helpful

[CHemling]

its possible that your infection variant has its "weapons on map" settings changed to a specific type of weapon (rifles/ snipers/ duals) if so, just change it to the setting that says "map default. "


Thanks for the suggestions - tried it and still no sentinel beams. Anyone have an idea?

[Garbearrr]

great thread man! very helpful

Yeah I agree, some of my friends are forgers and I never understood what they were doing until now.

Thanks man!

[_TaK_]

Thanks for the suggestions - tried it and still no sentinel beams. Anyone have an idea?

Make sure they are not set to symmetric item spawn, make sure under the spawn time it is set to both or asymmetric.

[AMidgetAndAClub]

*wrong thread......*

[Beast_iz_back]

hey anyone know how to geomerge into the sand dunes on sandbox cause i need to do it for one of my maps but i don't know how

[Owll]

Amazing post, expecialy the geo-glitch one. This will help alot +rep :)

[liev]

I saw allot of people complaining about the geoglitch in the crypt of sandbox. I only like making MLG style maps so I suppose grenades going under boxes might be problematic. But then I noticed on Lockdown that grenades can go under the boxes... yet it is a sponsored map... So my question is... if you make a crypt map do you have to sink all the objects on the floor or does it really matter any?

[Big_I]

how do you merge stuff into the walls, i know how to get them into the ground, but still dont know how to merge through walls

[yourself.]

how do you merge stuff into the walls, i know how to get them into the ground, but still dont know how to merge through walls

place the object next to the wall, put tellys on the top, the left and the right. then insert the doors. its the same thing as doing it on through the floor but sideways =/

(I wrote doors assuming that you are talking about foundry, but doors can be replaced with other things if you mean sandbox)

[DelaX]

How do you delete the drop spawned weapons on MLG Guardian v6? It won't delete right away. :o

[nicka]

How do you delete the drop spawned weapons on MLG Guardian v6? It won't delete right away. :o

You need to stack objects below the dropping weapon so that the stacked materials become fairly close to the height of the teardrop of the weapon.

after your objects are stacked, start a new round, and your sniper should be spawning on top of your newly placed objects, and if stacked high enough, you can delete the sniper

Hope this helps

[nicka]

How do you delete the drop spawned weapons on MLG Guardian v6? It won't delete right away. :o

You need to stack objects below the dropping weapon so that the stacked materials become fairly close to the height of the teardrop of the weapon.

after your objects are stacked, start a new round, and your sniper should be spawning on top of your newly placed objects, and if stacked high enough, you can delete the sniper

Hope this helps

[b0b43]

Nicka with the double post for emphasis.

But yeah, he is right. I think Guardians Snipe is about 2 crates high and the Mauler is 1 crate high (don't quote me on it). You just have to place those objects underneath it so it will act like it has spawned on the ground. Alternatively, you could place a starting point right next to where you want to be and be really quick in turning into monitor mode and deleting it, because there is a very small amount of time where you are still able to edit it before it settles.

[DelaX]

Nicka with the double post for emphasis.

But yeah, he is right. I think Guardians Snipe is about 2 crates high and the Mauler is 1 crate high (don't quote me on it). You just have to place those objects underneath it so it will act like it has spawned on the ground. Alternatively, you could place a starting point right next to where you want to be and be really quick in turning into monitor mode and deleting it, because there is a very small amount of time where you are still able to edit it before it settles.

Thanks to both of you. +rep

[nicka]

Nicka with the double post for emphasis.



You know it

[DeathstarsOG]

This is a quick tutorial on how to Float objects in the air without save quiting.

First you need atleast 2 people to do this. Next find out who is host.(usually by looking at the ground, turning into the monitor and then turning back into a spartan. If you are still looking at the ground, you are host).
Now that you know who is host, any player that is NOT the host can do this trick. Make the host party leader.
Now the player off host should be in the scenery menu with whatever object they wish to float highlighted. Have the host start a new round and as soon as they do, spawn the object. You have roughly 3 seconds to spawn and move the object in the position desired before it will freeze mid air(freezes just before screen goes black).
When the new round comes the object should be floating where you last left it.

This trick works great for drop spawning weapons as well. Hope this helps you guys!

[zEIemenT]

How do you make the different colors (like Purple) into walls without someone being able to pick it up? Cant figure it out for nothing

[b0b43]

How do you make the different colors (like Purple) into walls without someone being able to pick it up? Cant figure it out for nothing

Well to start with, they are basically Overshields (Red), Camo's (Blue), and Customs (Yellow) interlocked with the wall. When you interlock it in far enough, there comes a point where you can't pick it up but you can still see it.

As for colours like Purple, they are just two powerups interlocked into each other. Red + Blue makes Purple. Basically, Purple (Red + Blue) and White (Red + Blue + Yellow) are the main colours that are used because the rest of the combinations don't really look too much different.

[Cerberus_Beast]

Good explanation bob43, but to clarify, the point where you need to interlock the powerup is in the exact center of it, where the little blue dot/gizmo is. If that is interlocked (or maybe even just blocked? I haven't checked to clarify this.), then you should be able to touch the powerup and not pick it up, thus making it a base indicator. Also, blue lights and red lights can be interlocked to make a purple light on Sandbox, but a custom is still needed to make a yellow indicator.

[b0b43]

Good explanation bob43, but to clarify, the point where you need to interlock the powerup is in the exact center of it, where the little blue dot/gizmo is. If that is interlocked (or maybe even just blocked? I haven't checked to clarify this.), then you should be able to touch the powerup and not pick it up, thus making it a base indicator. Also, blue lights and red lights can be interlocked to make a purple light on Sandbox, but a custom is still needed to make a yellow indicator.

Are you sure about this? It seems right, but I think you might be able to grab it even if this is the case. When I forged a map quite a while back it had to be about 75% in to be able to not pick it up. It sounds correct, but I'm not too sure if this is true. Probably should test this.

[The_Phuria]

The tear drops have to be covered in order for them to not be picked up.

[Cerberus_Beast]

To clarify: I have tried this a good number of times before, and I have found that only the blue dot must be covered, but it must be covered ENTIRELY. Also, I am not sure whether or not being host has any effect on this, so XBL may also be a factor.

[ivan.iz.pro]

Good Thread
Get a link to it in your sig.

[b0b43]

Yeah, I realise that the teardrops have to be completely covered up. But sometimes, when it is only JUST covered up (still completely covering the teardrop though), you can still pick it up. When around 65% of the powerup is interlocked into the box, then you don't seem to be able to pick it up.

[Fritzster]

This is a quick tutorial on how to Float objects in the air without save quiting.

First you need atleast 2 people to do this. Next find out who is host.(usually by looking at the ground, turning into the monitor and then turning back into a spartan. If you are still looking at the ground, you are host).
Now that you know who is host, any player that is NOT the host can do this trick. Make the host party leader.
Now the player off host should be in the scenery menu with whatever object they wish to float highlighted. Have the host start a new round and as soon as they do, spawn the object. You have roughly 3 seconds to spawn and move the object in the position desired before it will freeze mid air(freezes just before screen goes black).
When the new round comes the object should be floating where you last left it.

This trick works great for drop spawning weapons as well. Hope this helps you guys!It works!

[xXbackfireXx]

It works!
Eureka, now how do we sell this to the masses?

[Cerberus_Beast]

Alright, I don't want to sound like a total noob and a fail here, but how do you guys get some of the more obscure and abstract angles that you put in your maps? I am currently able to easily achieve 45, 30, and 60 degree angles in game, but beyond that I am screwed. In addition to that, does anyone have a list or know of any reference angles of the Forge objects on Sandbox? For example: the Wedge, Large or Huge, I can't remember which, has a 45 degree angle. Also, the Ramp, Large, has about a 26.3 or so angle. Does anyone know or any others?

[xPurPLe]

Alright, I don't want to sound like a total noob and a fail here, but how do you guys get some of the more obscure and abstract angles that you put in your maps? I am currently able to easily achieve 45, 30, and 60 degree angles in game, but beyond that I am screwed. In addition to that, does anyone have a list or know of any reference angles of the Forge objects on Sandbox? For example: the Wedge, Large or Huge, I can't remember which, has a 45 degree angle. Also, the Ramp, Large, has about a 26.3 or so angle. Does anyone know or any others?

If I remember correctly, a ramp wide is 18 degrees(that just doesnt look right, however you spell it), wedge large are 45, and if a ramp large is 26.3, an upright wedge huge is 63.7. Basically, a combination of ramp wide with other objects will give you consistent angles, or you can just make a custom angle by save & quit, or on a symmetrical just lining things up correctly. It's kind of hard to explain. sorry :P

[ZoroSeerus]

If I remember correctly, a ramp wide is 18 degrees(that just doesnt look right, however you spell it), wedge large are 45, and if a ramp large is 26.3, an upright wedge huge is 63.7. Basically, a combination of ramp wide with other objects will give you consistent angles, or you can just make a custom angle by save & quit, or on a symmetrical just lining things up correctly. It's kind of hard to explain. sorry :P
A ramp wide is 14 degrees, Wedge larges are a nice 45, wedge huges are 26.6, and ramp larges are 26.6. The closest thing to a 30 is 2 ramp wides.

[Cerberus_Beast]

To clarify: I am able to make 30 degree angles through the use of good old geometry. A 30-60-90 triangle is a special right triangle, so basically if you place one edge of a double wall - length object on the ground, and the opposite edge on the edge of something one wall high, the resulting angle of elevation will be approximately 30. The margin is due to human error and the fact that Forge is physics-based, and not vector-based like, say, Sketchup.

[XzampleZZ]

idk what thread to ask for map references so i decided to ask here. does anyone know where a mlg assembly is with a forged ramp over the death pit?:banghead:

[VeRZiTy]

How can i geo merge on the crypt with out the bracing thing. a specific answer would help

[nicka]

How can i geo merge on the crypt with out the bracing thing. a specific answer would help

if you want your geo anywhere near accurate, you will need to brace it.

[Muiriled]

Okay well I think I'm missing something very basic here, but my default items on Sandbox don't want to interlock. Some items aren't disapearing at all at sometimes they don't even come back. It's been a bit of a roadblock so if anyone could help that'd be great. Either just post a reply here or message me on XBL, my gt is McAnarchy

[fanatic66]

Okay well I think I'm missing something very basic here, but my default items on Sandbox don't want to interlock. Some items aren't disapearing at all at sometimes they don't even come back. It's been a bit of a roadblock so if anyone could help that'd be great. Either just post a reply here or message me on XBL, my gt is McAnarchy

I just ran into this problem. Fearing I would run out of budget I started using the default items when I could. However, I tried to merge two default large ramps together but the ramp that was set to reappear after 30 sec. never disappeared at the start of the next round. I still couldn't manipulate it, which was annoying. I had to wait a while then it disappeared for a second (if that), came back and I could move it now. It's really weird. Point is, can you merge with the default sandbox items?

[yourself.]

I just ran into this problem. Fearing I would run out of budget I started using the default items when I could. However, I tried to merge two default large ramps together but the ramp that was set to reappear after 30 sec. never disappeared at the start of the next round. I still couldn't manipulate it, which was annoying. I had to wait a while then it disappeared for a second (if that), came back and I could move it now. It's really weird. Point is, can you merge with the default sandbox items?

To answer both of your questions, default objects will not dissapear untill around 30 seconds into the round. The way to work around this is to set the respawn rate to 180, this way you will still have 150 seconds to work while the object isnt spawned.
Also: Sometimes you might place a default object and then after you start a new round it will appear to reset to its original position. All you have to do is save & end the game, start it up again and your object will be in its correct position.
Anything you can do with a normal object can be done with a default object... its just a little more fustrating. You should check out my map which is made completely out of default objects. Not only is it a canvas map but it is also playable as a map. LINK (http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=88766632).

[yourmum94]

I thought everyone already new this but nice vids anyway

[Spaceneil8]

I just ran into this problem. Fearing I would run out of budget I started using the default items when I could. However, I tried to merge two default large ramps together but the ramp that was set to reappear after 30 sec. never disappeared at the start of the next round. I still couldn't manipulate it, which was annoying. I had to wait a while then it disappeared for a second (if that), came back and I could move it now. It's really weird. Point is, can you merge with the default sandbox items?
Here's my guide to interlocking with default items. (http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-forge-discussion/82005-simple-step-step-guide-interlocking-oln-items.html)

[fanatic66]

Thanks yourself and spaceneil (guide was cool).

I have another question. Do the default items in sandbox count towards the $ budget? If I delete say a double wall from the default items will I gain money? Or do the default items not count towards budget?

[Spaceneil8]

Thanks yourself and spaceneil (guide was cool).

I have another question. Do the default items in sandbox count towards the $ budget? If I delete say a double wall from the default items will I gain money? Or do the default items not count towards budget?
Yes, you will gain money back.

[yourself.]

Yes, you will gain money back.

Keep in mind tho that while you will get the money back, the object will still count towards the OLN.

[fanatic66]

Thanks again. You guys just saved my map concept. I thought I wouldn't have enough budget, but problem solved.

[Anacondua]

Here's my guide to interlocking with default items. (http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-forge-discussion/82005-simple-step-step-guide-interlocking-oln-items.html)
What does OLN stand for?

[yourself.]

What does OLN stand for?

object limit number

[XxPANCHOmanxX]

Thank you so much I really would like to improve so hopefully this helps.

P.S. would anyone like to show me or forge with me on XBL?

[CASMAN]

I know how to forge quite well, but took about a year and a half off, and now I want to do some stuff in the sky-box, what do I need to know about forging in there that was different from foundry? besides nothing to "walk on"?

[ZeR0_BC]

How do you make it so no1 can edit your weapon placement, and is there a way to reverse this?

[_TaK_]

How do you make it so no1 can edit your weapon placement, and is there a way to reverse this?

You can't, when weapons drop spawn they settle and then can't be moved or edited because they are no longer in their default spawn location, in order to edit the weapons you need to either get there before the weapon settles or place something underneath the spawn so that the weapon doesn't fall to far from the teardrop.

[menotyou135]

blub
really?

[_TaK_]

really?

Was an insulting post that was edited, don't know why he didn't just delete it though, which both of you should anyways.

How to:

Edit Post> click Delete button, inbetween Go Advanced and Cancel.