Asymmetrical Forge Project - Mecro (*Sketchup pics*)

[-NaStY-]

An idea I'm smoothing out for another room-based, asymmetrical flowing map. Hopefully we can talk about it, revise the idea and create some working models for playtesting. If we get the kind of interest hang-out did, who knows what we'll come up with.

Mecro

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1959/mecrojk1.png (http://imageshack.us)
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Updated with bigger pictures so you don't have to click on it.

[-DaZe-]

Bigger pictures please. Its hard to focus on the detail of the sketch up

[-NaStY-]

Click on them.

[ZRDragoon]

Loving all these Assymetrical map ideas coming out of here. It's a breath of fresh air for all the other Foundry maps.

[-DaZe-]

I know huh. This one looks pretty sweet as well.

[II GBZ II]

Looks like it has a lot of cool ideas built-in....

I have a bunch of ideas for an asymmetrical build aswell, and maybe we can work something out.

GT for anything: THE YaNz

[GlxyDs]

This map looks great man!

[-NaStY-]

Thanks guys :)


I imagine that this map would have at least 2 teleporter channels. One would be a two way between two interesting, open places. The other would be a one way that would allow the right side of the map (if you're looking at the overhead in pic 1) to get up to the S curve walkway a little easier.


I feel that the S curve room would have a lot of action tend to converge on it. Being open and a bad place to set up, it would be a perfect place for a power-up, namely rockets. One thing I like about this room is the way that the s walkway parades all the way through it and dominates the geometry, but is not actually accessible from the room. With a power-up up on that walkway there would be a premium on getting up there, especially if the power-up was about to spawn. This could inspire some cool jumps or grenade tricks.


Concerning the rather skinny walkways that run from the left right next to each other, I feel these could be made out of the sides of doors, walls, or signs. As long as it's a skinny surface, it will work. I emphasize the skinniness because I think this area would work better if it's kind of a treacherous walk over to that platform that's easy to fall from if you get distracted. After all, the platform that they lead to looks out over a lot of the level.

[FoxKeyes]

Looks crazy Nasty, I'm sure it will turn out amazing. Some of those rooms are very reminiscent of past halo maps and also some other FPS games.

I'd love to help out on this one if one of the more experienced forgers got their hands on it. Just to give input if anything. :-)

[TheLastMohican7]

Loving all these Assymetrical map ideas coming out of here. It's a breath of fresh air for all the other Foundry maps.

Couldn't agree more.

I can't really grasp the sketchup model in terms of Halo gameplay, but it looks like it could work well with a few changes (which will have to happen converting it to Forge).

On the last picture, I don't really see any function of the wall protruding from the tall structure on the left because it doesn't appear to make any jump possible or add cover.

[-NaStY-]

Couldn't agree more.

I can't really grasp the sketchup model in terms of Halo gameplay, but it looks like it could work well with a few changes (which will have to happen converting it to Forge).

On the last picture, I don't really see any function of the wall protruding from the tall structure on the left because it doesn't appear to make any jump possible or add cover.

I assume you mean the square little platform that's just sort of hanging there at the southern center of the map?

I sort of envisioned a teleporter beneath it and an interesting weapon spawning there - namely the Plasma rifle. I thought it would be neat to force people to jump to it, and I figured it would add a bit of cover to people exiting the teleporter. Of course, all of this is theoretical and would need to be tested in gameplay.

[-DaZe-]

On the last picture, I don't really see any function of the wall protruding from the tall structure on the left because it doesn't appear to make any jump possible or add cover.
Well maybe you can put a power weapon there ;-)

[-NaStY-]

Well maybe you can put a power weapon there ;-)

Haha great minds think alike!

[TheLastMohican7]

I assume you mean the square little platform that's just sort of hanging there at the southern center of the map?

I sort of envisioned a teleporter beneath it and an interesting weapon spawning there - namely the Plasma rifle. I thought it would be neat to force people to jump to it, and I figured it would add a bit of cover to people exiting the teleporter. Of course, all of this is theoretical and would need to be tested in gameplay.

I guess it makes sense that you have a teleporter and weapon above, but I saw it as a small jump that couldn't be walked or crouched under and could only function as a transition jump, which is why I questioned it since it doesn't appear to transition into anything.

The only issue that I see with having a receiver node under the power weapon is that confrontation there would be really weird because you could have one person grabbing the power weapon and another person teleporting behind them and assassinating them as they hop down. Or, people would camp that place if a rocket or mauler spawned there because they could easily kill people teleporting below them.

[-NaStY-]

I guess it makes sense that you have a teleporter and weapon above, but I saw it as a small jump that couldn't be walked or crouched under and could only function as a transition jump, which is why I questioned it since it doesn't appear to transition into anything.

The only issue that I see with having a receiver node under the power weapon is that confrontation there would be really weird because you could have one person grabbing the power weapon and another person teleporting behind them and assassinating them as they hop down. Or, people would camp that place if a rocket or mauler spawned there because they could easily kill people teleporting below them.

Hmm very good point.

I suppose it would have to be one or the other, and I'm leaning towards weapon (though not a real power weapon, more like a plasma rifle or sniper).

[Ozzydogg1]

I would like to volunteer to playtest this for you once you get a model going. I loved Hang Out it :pwned: and I want to be a part of this creation

[TheLastMohican7]

Hmm very good point.

I suppose it would have to be one or the other, and I'm leaning towards weapon (though not a real power weapon, more like a plasma rifle or sniper).

If you put a plasma rifle or sniper there, it could work since it wouldn't be an easy kill like rockets or mauler, but it would still promote camping.

I will keep my criticisms to myself until a version is made. It looks like it could have even more ways around the map than Hangout does, which is always a good thing. It is also a relief that people are straying away from the unoriginal two/four base symmetrical maps.

[Mephisto]

can you give a download link? so i can look at it in sketchup

[Mephisto]

It is also a relief that people are straying away from the unoriginal two/four base symmetrical maps.
exactly, im working on one as well. i dont have a design yet, im just fooling around in forge to see what works. ill be making a sketchup soon

[HdT Sasuke]

Liking the way this sketch up looks. Can't wait to see this progress.

[Jnoon]

I love to see the new innovative ideas coming from forgers, it has brought forging back from repetitive 2base maps

[GlxyDs]

I'd love to help test this map when it gets to that stage.

[_Aceflight]

its really great to see these forged asymmetrical maps being made...

[s_t_e_a_l_t_ih]

it looks awesome

[-Berserker-]

good luck making it. it would be pretty sick if done correctly

[FoxKeyes]

I think I might start building this tomorrow if I have time after my classes, that is, unless a better forger is stepping up to the plate, cuz I don't wanna waste my time. :-P

[-NaStY-]

I think I might start building this tomorrow if I have time after my classes, that is, unless a better forger is stepping up to the plate, cuz I don't wanna waste my time. :-P

Go right ahead, I'll be happy to help and do some advanced forging if you need it. I have a lot of stuff to do right now so it would be awesome if you could begin construction on this :D

[Mephisto]

download link?

[-NaStY-]

download link?

I don't know how to create one? What's your email - I can send the file as an attachment.

[AlmightyStryker]

Looks really nice talk to Salot on making it

[cHaRoOshEuh]

the designs look really impressive and i see a lot of potential, i'm hoping you go through with the idea.

[Zanno]

layout looks promising but some things look far too ambitious, for example i don't see how you could do that curvy S bridge, especially the pillars underneath. did you do any budget calculations yet?

another thing is, for budget reasons, competitive forge maps tend to put the wall facing on floor 2, that saves a whole set of walls you need to get rid of the foundry bases. you might want to rework it so at least one wall of the map is on floor 2 and 3 of foundry exclusively. working in the middle wall can squeeze in a little extra stuff to work with, as well.

one other question: what corner were you planning on having the crane be in? i can't really figure out the orientation of the map based on the sketchup.

[Mephisto]

layout looks promising but some things look far too ambitious, for example i don't see how you could do that curvy S bridge, especially the pillars underneath. did you do any budget calculations yet?

another thing is, for budget reasons, competitive forge maps tend to put the wall facing on floor 2, that saves a whole set of walls you need to get rid of the foundry bases. you might want to rework it so at least one wall of the map is on floor 2 and 3 of foundry exclusively. working in the middle wall can squeeze in a little extra stuff to work with, as well.

one other question: what corner were you planning on having the crane be in? i can't really figure out the orientation of the map based on the sketchup.
thanks a lot debbie downer... jk

[-NaStY-]

layout looks promising but some things look far too ambitious, for example i don't see how you could do that curvy S bridge, especially the pillars underneath. did you do any budget calculations yet?

another thing is, for budget reasons, competitive forge maps tend to put the wall facing on floor 2, that saves a whole set of walls you need to get rid of the foundry bases. you might want to rework it so at least one wall of the map is on floor 2 and 3 of foundry exclusively. working in the middle wall can squeeze in a little extra stuff to work with, as well.

one other question: what corner were you planning on having the crane be in? i can't really figure out the orientation of the map based on the sketchup.

Curvy S Bridge is 3 walls, easy. Pillars are Short Barriers :)

I don't understand what you're saying with the 2nd part?

[its rip its rip]

stuff like this is what i was hoping people would start forging. i remember in the beginning everyone was doing 'remakes' that looked and played nothing like the originals. very refreshing to see some original content.

one question; will the budget allow you to make the map?

[Baron Saturday]

Nasty: Pls send me a FR if you want company building this up.
I reallly like the super thin walkways.

[phlsphr]

thought about doing it on avalanche instead of foundry?

[KrAyZiE]

I haven't been on Halo for weeks and that is about to change.

Forge, here I come.

[banana93]

Its cool idea. I was woundering what software you wer using to map the pictures. If you could tell me thanks.

[CaptCriticism]

What program did you use to make those 3D pics of the map?(I just noticed that the person above me asked the same question) :(

And I think this is a great idea. This map should play GREAT! :)

[Zanno]

Curvy S Bridge is 3 walls, easy. Pillars are Short Barriers :)

I don't understand what you're saying with the 2nd part?i was wrong, forget it

where are you putting the crane though

[SGT_CHAOTIC]

I made this last night took me 7 hours and so far the games on it are really good but theres bumps on it that i will take care of later. Some Changes were made though because the area I made it into was square but the desgin was a rectangle.http://www.bungie.net/forums/posts.aspx?h3fileid=35780099

[-NaStY-]

I made this last night took me 7 hours and so far the games on it are really good but theres bumps on it that i will take care of later. Some Changes were made though because the area I made it into was square but the desgin was a rectangle.http://www.bungie.net/forums/posts.aspx?h3fileid=35780099

Dude, thanks a ton man! DLing, I'll report back soon.

[-ImplosioN-]

hey nasty, whats your GT?

[FoxKeyes]

Nasty and I worked on this today. :-P It's gonna be sweet, but not exactly like the design in this thread.

[That-DAM-n00b]

God that sketch up looks secksi

[xXJust MadXx]

I'm lovin the H1 style maps. Looks like it would play well. Have any idea when there will be a forged version of it?

[-NaStY-]

I'm lovin the H1 style maps. Looks like it would play well. Have any idea when there will be a forged version of it?

There's a chance azazel and I's version will be finished tonight. I append my name to this version, but in truth azazel has done the vast majority of the work because we have a bad connection and off-host I can't see the map correctly.

But yea - a much more polished, fully geo-d version will be up quite soon. Many thanks to Sgt. Chaotic whose build really helped with visualization and planning.

[MILeZ_Per_HoUR]

this looks like a sweet idea! :)

[SGT_CHAOTIC]

There's a chance azazel and I's version will be finished tonight. I append my name to this version, but in truth azazel has done the vast majority of the work because we have a bad connection and off-host I can't see the map correctly.

But yea - a much more polished, fully geo-d version will be up quite soon. Many thanks to Sgt. Chaotic whose build really helped with visualization and planning.

thanks glad my version helped cant wait to see your guy's version

[its rip its rip]

There's a chance azazel and I's version will be finished tonight. I append my name to this version, but in truth azazel has done the vast majority of the work because we have a bad connection and off-host I can't see the map correctly.

But yea - a much more polished, fully geo-d version will be up quite soon. Many thanks to Sgt. Chaotic whose build really helped with visualization and planning.
yah you should throw out a rough draft or something for us to see.

if it turns out anything like the sketches i'll be one happy man.

[FoxKeyes]

yah you should throw out a rough draft or something for us to see.

if it turns out anything like the sketches i'll be one happy man.


I'll have it up on the forums by tomorrow some time.


Having some difficulty near the end here.

[-NaStY-]

I'll have it up on the forums by tomorrow some time.


Having some difficulty near the end here.

Are you online? Let me join your party noob.

[FoxKeyes]

Are you online? Let me join your party noob.


I'm not. I have to go to Indianapolis because my grandfather is having a really risky surgery tomorrow morning...


and Indiana Jones was the worst movie I've ever seen.


This is my least favorite birthday ever. :-(

[-NaStY-]

:(

Hope the surgery goes well.

[its rip its rip]

I'm not. I have to go to Indianapolis because my grandfather is having a really risky surgery tomorrow morning...


and Indiana Jones was the worst movie I've ever seen.


This is my least favorite birthday ever. :-(
grandpa surgeries suck.

and indy sucked too? are you ****ing kidding?

[FoxKeyes]

grandpa surgeries suck.

and indy sucked too? are you ****ing kidding?

Probably Spielberg's worst movie of all time.

No joke.

I wish George Lucas was dead.

[MLG_KonArtist]

let me know when a playable version is up

[FoxKeyes]

let me know when a playable version is up

Of indy jones? Never again. :-(




Mecro should be this weekend

[MLG_KonArtist]

let me know when a playable version is up

[its rip its rip]

Probably Spielberg's worst movie of all time.

No joke.

I wish George Lucas was dead.
wow.

i was looking forward to this.

i'll still go see it to derive my own opinion but it isn't looking so good...

:(

[eVDoNV2.5]

+ REP dude these maps look pretty sick :)

[FoxKeyes]

wow.

i was looking forward to this.

i'll still go see it to derive my own opinion but it isn't looking so good...

:(

Yeah, it's just littered with George Lucas bull****. So much CGI it's like a cartoon. And the action, while tons of it, is so unbelievably stupid that it's not even fun to watch.

And the script...don't even get me started.

I am a Production major though so I may be a little more harsh than others, but true Indy fans who know what it was all about are all gonna suffer the same thing that Star Wars fans did when the new 3 came out.


Oh, and I'm going to Indianapolis in the morning, so Mecro is being worked on.

[-NaStY-]

Yeah, it's just littered with George Lucas bull****. So much CGI it's like a cartoon. And the action, while tons of it, is so unbelievably stupid that it's not even fun to watch.

And the script...don't even get me started.

I am a Production major though so I may be a little more harsh than others, but true Indy fans who know what it was all about are all gonna suffer the same thing that Star Wars fans did when the new 3 came out.


Oh, and I'm going to Indianapolis in the morning, so Mecro is being worked on.

You on right now?

I'm still gonna see it because Rottentomatoes has it at a solid 80. Maybe you're just harsh :)

[TheRx]

the only issue with this map is the hight of some of the higher platforms. they are right up against foundrys walls and sometimes with the *** roof foundry has you can barley even jump. the solution is to make the plats not 2 boxes high but more like 1.5. but thats hard and time consumeing, other than that im going to try to build an inverted version and see how it feels.

[Dark_Kidd]

if i could forge i would do it but, im horrible man sorry Link me tho when the final product is done k?

[DeadDisco123]

So well planed, it would be sick if you could pull it off

[G0dly0ne]

very, very interesting concept. I can't wait to see it done, good luck with everything. I'll definitely dl and run some games on it, give you feedback.

[Dutycalls]

as much as i'd love to want a symmetrical map, this map seems sick. just take your time guys. make sure to perfect everything. don't try to put too much in it. good luck yall.

[xj4gx]

are you sure than you will be able to recreate the same map on foundry ???

[LOCOMOFO]

dont make it to small

[KrAyZiE]

dont make it to small

I can only begin to guess what forums you originally came from.

[5tuck3d]

looks great, looks like it kinda has a Halo 1 feel to it. If you ever get this up and running i'll definitely help playtest.

[LOSTTTTTTTTTTTT]

bungie needs to make a empty map like foundry, except with a different texture, like make it in a chemical plant, or a underground secret facility, or a dam like goldeneye or transformers, making the main playing area a little bit bigger blocked off my a bobwire fence or something tite, just give us a new texture to play on other than the orange, red, brown color scheme making my eyes hurt on foundry

[That-DAM-n00b]

keep me updated of an ffa version of this por favor.