What jumps are you guys having the most trouble with/would like to learn the most?

[ssshakedown]

I'm trying to make some jumping tutorials that are more in-depth than many of the ones out there right now, and that can be a bit more helpful than just telling the buttons to push and sticks to move. So if you've got a jump you want to learn or master, just list it (them) here. Use callouts from this (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3791230)thread to describe any jumps you want.

Unfortunately, I don't really have a means of capturing the video (pretty presumptuous of me, huh?) for these tutorials, so if a kind community member would step up to the plate here, that'd be great.

EDIT: these are tactical jumps that have a practical use in MLG games.

[Wibazome]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.

[ssshakedown]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.
I can certainly do those two for you. I just recently "got" G1 to G2, so I'd be happy to share.

[MLG_Trane]

s1 -> s2 is impossible for me, I'm almost certain.

s3 -> bottom blue is something I'd like to be able to do, too.

[ssshakedown]

s1 -> s2 is impossible for me, I'm almost certain.

s3 -> bottom blue is something I'd like to be able to do, too.
S3 to bottom blue is something I've either never seen or never recognized, but I can probably work that in. Do you have any video of it?

[eXcel_905]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.
Agreed with this one.

Construct: Rockets/Catwalk to Left or Right side. I saw it done on a video but ya.

[Vincent33]

First, thank you for making this thread. You may have read my post in the "new pit jump" thread about how I thought there should be a thread specifcally for tactical jumps due to the recent amount of requests for help with these. I cannot posts up vids of jumps, but I can try to give a detailed explanation of how I do it if one would like. I've got the G1-g2 jump and Narrows' Mancannon to top mid down. I've very inconsistent with the s1-s2 guardian jump. There are two ways to do the s1-s2 jump, and I'm trying to get both ways down. So, I cannot wait to hear people's explanations on that jump. If someone could do the s3-b1 consistently, then I would be very impressed.

[i cut u up]

http://highimpacthalo.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33

Countless videos that show all of the above jumps....And if you need help with any jumps or recorders I would suggest going over there.

[.Senseless]

S1 to S2 on Guardian, Bottom Closed Lift to Bubble Shield on Construct, and those damn doors on the front of the base on Onslaught. JK on that last one BTW.

[Sslasher]

S3 to bottom blue involves a slide jump off the S3 ledge. I think you can grenade jump it but I have not tried. If it does involve a slide jump then I will tell you now it is not practical for game play just trick jumping videos.

There is only one jump I have not gotten in the game and it is a trick jump. Jump from Gaurdian S1 to the tree outside the map from S1. I'm not talking about the grenade/hammer jump combo to the high point of the tree that is between elbow and S2.

Watch this video at 1:05 pause it, notice he has no hammer and is in the spot I want to get to, it is a very good spot and it is done in matchmaking game. If anyone can figure this one out let me know. NoSkiLLx is my gamer tag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I6Z1irCdmw

[Sslasher]

This video contains the gaurdian and construct jump. Oh yeah bottom closed purple to bubble shield you can you the man cannon where you almost go in the man cannon but you dont and it lifts you up and you change direction and leave the normal path of the man cannon or you can jump off and shoot the fusion coils next to the lift.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K6l39hGq8oY

[ssshakedown]

Agreed with this one.

Construct: Rockets/Catwalk to Left or Right side. I saw it done on a video but ya.
I'm fairly sure I've done that one, so sure, that'll be in.

First, thank you for making this thread. You may have read my post in the "new pit jump" thread about how I thought there should be a thread specifcally for tactical jumps due to the recent amount of requests for help with these. I cannot posts up vids of jumps, but I can try to give a detailed explanation of how I do it if one would like. I've got the G1-g2 jump and Narrows' Mancannon to top mid down. I've very inconsistent with the s1-s2 guardian jump. There are two ways to do the s1-s2 jump, and I'm trying to get both ways down. So, I cannot wait to hear people's explanations on that jump. If someone could do the s3-b1 consistently, then I would be very impressed.
Some help with the Mancannon to top-mid would be nice, message me, as I'm sure that'll be a popular one.

S1 to S2 on Guardian, Bottom Closed Lift to Bubble Shield on Construct, and those damn doors on the front of the base on Onslaught. JK on that last one BTW.
S1 to S2 has already been requested, and both methods will appear in the video. The second one confused me. Use the callouts from this (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3791230)thread.

S3 to bottom blue involves a slide jump off the S3 ledge. I think you can grenade jump it but I have not tried. If it does involve a slide jump then I will tell you now it is not practical for game play just trick jumping videos.

If you're saying it's not practical because it's a slide jump, I'd have to disagree, slide jumps are fairly easy to get down. If you're questioning the nature of the jump itself, I guess I'll look into it.

[Sslasher]

In the video link I put the person did it with no slide jump. I like slide jumps but for me slide jumps on gaurdian are fairly hard because almost all ledges that you slide on seem only to be like 1ft wide and if ou miss them you most of the time will fall off the map, thats why I say its not practical.

Question for you though, when you slide jump do you hit crouch just before you hit the ledge or do you hold crouch the entire time. Do you also uncrouch and jump once you hit the ledge or do you just hold crouch and hit jump. And also how long do you actually "slide" on the ledge/slant before you do the 2nd jump or is it just right away?

[ssshakedown]

In the video link I put the person did it with no slide jump. I like slide jumps but for me slide jumps on gaurdian are fairly hard because almost all ledges that you slide on seem only to be like 1ft wide and if ou miss them you most of the time will fall off the map, thats why I say its not practical.

Question for you though, when you slide jump do you hit crouch just before you hit the ledge or do you hold crouch the entire time. Do you also uncrouch and jump once you hit the ledge or do you just hold crouch and hit jump. And also how long do you actually "slide" on the ledge/slant before you do the 2nd jump or is it just right away?
I myself hold crouch, but it doesn't matter, as long as you're crouched when you hit the ledge, so that you can uncrouch and jump at the same time when you hit. It's harder on Guardian, because, like you said, the ledges are all tiny and it's death if you miss. I try to do it a split second after hitting the ledge, maybe half a split second.:)

[MLG_Trane]

I've done the S3/Bottom blue jump without slide jumping <_<

it's just incredibly hard for me.

meh.

[ssshakedown]

I've done the S3/Bottom blue jump without slide jumping <_<

it's just incredibly hard for me.

meh.
I think the only practical use for that jump would be at the beginning of a slayer game to flank the other team if they're at blue entrance. Send someone to Big Tree and catch them in a nice crossfire. Later in the game when all hell has broken loose and it's hard to keep track of enemy positions, it would be less useful and more dangerous.

[Mikey653]

I think the only practical use for that jump would be at the beginning of a slayer game to flank the other team if they're at blue entrance. Send someone to Big Tree and catch them in a nice crossfire. Later in the game when all hell has broken loose and it's hard to keep track of enemy positions, it would be less useful and more dangerous.

or you could break a blue room ball setup. o.o srsly who checks snipe lift? :???:

more useful imo...

[ssshakedown]

or you could break a blue room ball setup. o.o srsly who checks snipe lift? :???:

more useful imo...
There's a ghost edge jumping route that takes you up the chute from default shotgun spawn. If you really wanted to break a blue room ball setup, that's how.

[impulze11]

GOLD 1 TOO GOLD 2

[ssshakedown]

GOLD 1 TOO GOLD 2
That'll be the very first one.

[MLG_Trane]

I think the only practical use for that jump would be at the beginning of a slayer game to flank the other team if they're at blue entrance. Send someone to Big Tree and catch them in a nice crossfire. Later in the game when all hell has broken loose and it's hard to keep track of enemy positions, it would be less useful and more dangerous.
yeah, the idea was to break gold setups, but I think of it as pretty frickin obvious. one of my teammates wanted me to learn it, so i had (albeit extremely inconsistently), but it's pretty obvious seeing some guy jump off s3.

Also, it's rarely hard to keep track of enemies, at least when I play with a competent team. Guessing spawns + callouts + good setup is a pretty guaranteed knowledge of where the enemy is a matter of seconds after their spawn.

[II Mike II]

Snipe 1 to Snipe 2. That is the only one I can't do. Ever. Bottom gold to Top gold is pretty easy for me.

[ssshakedown]

Snipe 1 to Snipe 2. That is the only one I can't do. Ever. Bottom gold to Top gold is pretty easy for me.
To be honest, I have a lot of trouble with that one too. But I'm going to learn it the hard way, so you don't have to.

yeah, the idea was to break gold setups, but I think of it as pretty frickin obvious. one of my teammates wanted me to learn it, so i had (albeit extremely inconsistently), but it's pretty obvious seeing some guy jump off s3.

Also, it's rarely hard to keep track of enemies, at least when I play with a competent team. Guessing spawns + callouts + good setup is a pretty guaranteed knowledge of where the enemy is a matter of seconds after their spawn.
I don't play on a consistent team of people. I play customs with whoever is in the lobby. There's no shortage of communication, but sometimes I get one or two quiet people, and with the myriad of hiding spots and jumps on Guardian, it can get hectic.

[TheNumber7]

S3 to B1 is not hard at all, just use the lift to your advantage.

[TheGuardians05]

s1 to s2 on guardian. ive only done it 3 times and i cant do it again :(

[Lex1337]

I can do S1 to S2 but I wanna learn Elbow to S2 and Mauler to Top Mid on Guardian.

[ssshakedown]

I could go for some help on S1 to S2.
In return, if you showed me the other two, because I've never seen them, I can do my best on them. S1 to S2 just seems to be completely escaping me right now I've been trying it for longer than it took me to master G1 to G2, I need something else to work on.

[_Rampage]

s1 to s2 is hard

[Dave_C0ulier]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.
yea bottom gold to top gold seems random, i have done it a few times but cant do it consistently its weird

[Sslasher]

anyone figure out the one at 1:05 yet? :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K6l39hGq8oY

[ssshakedown]

yea bottom gold to top gold seems random, i have done it a few times but cant do it consistently its weird
Until I get the tutorial up, which could take who knows how long, this (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179746&page=3&highlight=edge+jumps)thread helped me to get that jump down consistently.

[MLG_Trane]

IMO Mauler -> top mid is pointless, as it is blatantly visible, slow, and puts you in top mid, the easiest place to land a kill on the map.

[Haynes-]

I have a few..

Guardian - s1 to s2. g1 to g2. s3 to elbow

Construct - weak purple to middle.

and simple ghost ledges jumps and slide jumping..:/

[XxMaulxX]

Guardian lower Gold to camo or blue room.

[br00d10]

Hey I could show you the way I jump from Snipe 3 to Bottom Blue then you could put it in the tut.

[ONSLAUGHT671]

S1 to S2

[ssshakedown]

IMO Mauler -> top mid is pointless, as it is blatantly visible, slow, and puts you in top mid, the easiest place to land a kill on the map.
The Mauler to Top Mid I know would be pretty useful for Oddball as a last ditch effort, or to escape pursuit in any gametype when you hold S3.

List of Jumps (up to this post)

Gold 1 to Gold 2 (also known as Yellow 1 to Yellow 2, or Bottom Gold to Top Gold)
Snipe 1 to Snipe 2
S3 to Bottom Blue
Open/Closed Street to Rockets
Rockets to Open/Closed Street
S3 to Elbow
Mauler to Top Mid
Mancannon to Top Mid*
Top Mid/Top A or B to Flag (Onslaught)
General slide jumping tutorial

* = jumps that I cannot do yet, so if you can give me some help, that'd be great.

[Haynes-]

What about ghost edge jumping..? I seen tutorials but I'm not entirely sure on how to do it.

EDIT: @ Shakedown, that video for Gold 1 to Gold 2 really helped me I finally got that down. Thanks for the video.

[TOMMMMMMMMMM]

The jumps that give me the most trouble are snipe 1 to snipe 2, Yellow 1 to Yellow 2 and on construct, bottom purple lift to bubble shield

[xDmaN]

yeah definatly s1 > s1... but i pretty much have all the others downpacked.... =]

[MumboJumbo]

i've used the s3 to blue 1 by a simple grenade jump and it rapes setups

[Haynes-]

I did the s1 to s2 once...still a little confused on where exactly to jump, whether or not to crouch.

[ssshakedown]

I did the s1 to s2 once...still a little confused on where exactly to jump, whether or not to crouch.
Those are the problems I'm having right now.

[IVs Syked]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.

Ditto. I've only tried it like 5 times, but G1 to G2 is freaking impossible for me, and other people can do it 90%+ of the time.

[Madgecko]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.
ditto... cant get them, i always come up inches short...

EDIT: swear to god had no idea Syked posted that /\
real f'ing creepy...

[bushevik]

I learned the yellow 1 to 2 jump on my own after hearing about it. My key to success makes it very simple to get the second jump. When you jump into the corner, you should be aiming your feet to hit where the horizontal dark line hits the corner. This line is on the side wall above what would seem to be the obvious ledge. I feel most people probably aren't jumping this high when having problems.

[saber379]

Yellow one to yellow two, snipe one to snipe 2.

If you are talking about Guardian then I completly agree

[vV_II_EyesAwaken]

Guardian (G1 to G2), I can jump on the ledge fine, and I've seen in theatre I get high enough to get to G2, but I can't pull myself back onto G2 and I fall straight back through the hole. I've tried crouching and pulling the joystick back, everything, still no luck :neutral: .

[-Truppe-]

Anybody have a tutorial vid. on the Construct jump from open/closed lift up to bubble shield? Or just know how to do it?

[ssshakedown]

Anybody have a tutorial vid. on the Construct jump from open/closed lift up to bubble shield? Or just know how to do it?
It's going to be in the video I'm making.
Just to make sure it's the one I'm thinking of, do you have a video where it's pulled off?

Guardian (G1 to G2), I can jump on the ledge fine, and I've seen in theatre I get high enough to get to G2, but I can't pull myself back onto G2 and I fall straight back through the hole. I've tried crouching and pulling the joystick back, everything, still no luck :neutral: .
Even though it sounds harder, I turn around so that I'm facing a bit to the right of the corner and I hit the middle of the ledge (you don't have to hit the corner), and keep turning after I get the second jump.

[IWallShoT]

open purple/closed purple to top middle (Construct)

[Itz Afraid]

If you could detail the jump from Green 1 to Explosives Hallway, I would really appreciate it.

Also, I can easily do the Mancannon to Top Mid jump on Narrows... send me an invite at ii afraid v2 ii to find out how.

[ssshakedown]

If you could detail the jump from Green 1 to Explosives Hallway, I would really appreciate it.

Also, I can easily do the Mancannon to Top Mid jump on Narrows... send me an invite at ii afraid v2 ii to find out how.
I figured the Mancannon one out today, but thanks.

I'm not really sure what Explosives Hallway is, do you mean the hall between G1 and S1?

Oh, and guys, I've got most of the clips I need ready (I just need to take clips from saved films I have of common mistakes make on these jumps, and some third person clips), I just need someone to capture them, and for me to figure out S1 to S2.

[A-Is-For-Apple]

My pathetic attempt at explaining Yellow1-Yellow2 through the magic of text:

1. The most difficult part of this jump is the first one, remember that. I also found it easier to learn on MLG settings.

2. You are going to want to approach the jump at roughly a 45 degree angle, aiming for the corner of the ledge.

3. If you look on the ground, there is a slight incline as you approach the jump. You are going to want to jump the instant that you feel yourself hit the incline. This is probably the most important step

4. DO NO CROUCH IN MIDAIR.

5. If performed correctly you will hear a thunk as your feet hit the ledge. You should be able to walk on the ledge for a half second or so.

6. Once you have landed on the ledge hold backwards and crouch jump up to the second level. It may help to hold backwards in mid air during the first jump.

[ssshakedown]

My pathetic attempt at explaining Yellow1-Yellow2 through the magic of text:

1. The most difficult part of this jump is the first one, remember that. I also found it easier to learn on MLG settings.

2. You are going to want to approach the jump at roughly a 45 degree angle, aiming for the corner of the ledge.

3. If you look on the ground, there is a slight incline as you approach the jump. You are going to want to jump the instant that you feel yourself hit the incline. This is probably the most important step

4. DO NO CROUCH IN MIDAIR.

5. If performed correctly you will hear a thunk as your feet hit the ledge. You should be able to walk on the ledge for a half second or so.

6. Once you have landed on the ledge hold backwards and crouch jump up to the second level. It may help to hold backwards in mid air during the first jump.
I used to do it that way, but I'm much more consistent when I turn so that I land facing forwards, so that's the way that'll be in the video.

[A-Is-For-Apple]

Oh, and could you throw in Bottom Blue to Blue Glass in the video? That ones a coin toss for me if i'll make it or not

[ssshakedown]

Oh, and could you throw in Bottom Blue to Blue Glass in the video? That ones a coin toss for me if i'll make it or not
If you can find a video of it, I honesty have no idea what you're talking about.

[Vincent33]

Oh, and could you throw in Bottom Blue to Blue Glass in the video? That ones a coin toss for me if i'll make it or not

I believe this may be the one that you get on the ledge on the bottom left side facing blue ramp (near snipe lift). I think you jump off the tree and get on a ledge where you eventually do a little bit of a curve jump to get to back of blue glass. The thing is the ledge may be an illegal spot in MLG.


Edit: this is only an illegal spot for the oddball I believe. Check number nine in the list of illegal spots with pictures sticky.

[ssshakedown]

I believe this may be the one that you get on the ledge on the bottom left side facing blue ramp (near snipe lift). I think you jump off the tree and get on a ledge where you eventually do a little bit of a curve jump to get to back of blue glass. The thing is the ledge may be an illegal spot in MLG.


Edit: this is only an illegal spot for the oddball I believe. Check number nine in the list of illegal spots with pictures sticky.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, I think I can try that one.

[Mikey653]

Snipe Lift to Blue window is the one he's talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aJ3Spg7fz8

It starts at 2:50

[Tarkkkkkkk]

I need to learn how to go form man cannon to top mid on narrows

[A-Is-For-Apple]

Snipe Lift to Blue window is the one he's talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aJ3Spg7fz8

It starts at 2:50

Nope, thats not it. This is. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl8afPiSy3Q)

[Dutchy_]

ya the jump i would really like to see explained would be S1 to S2, G1 to G2 would also be nice.
thanks for making this thread too.

[Sentroxx]

Agreed with this one.

Construct: Rockets/Catwalk to Left or Right side. I saw it done on a video but ya.
pretty simple run untill u are about to fall then crouch jump?

[The_Neon]

If you can find a video of it, I honesty have no idea what you're talking about.

I think he means shotgun to explosives(blue) to break the ball setup.

There is a pretty useful one to go from S3 to bottom forest which I'm not sure you have done.

I would also really like to know how to do onw hwere you are between back flag and bottom snipe on the pit(around from pit box) and a there is just an empry corner, well I saw SK make a jump from there to Plat in this video - http://www.mlgpro.com/video/espnsaturday&c=ESPN%20Saturday%20Night at 10:27.

I can cap the clips for you in around a week if you don't mind waiting as I'm going on holiday.

[ssshakedown]

I have the clips ready, I'm just trying to figure out Vegas in order to edit them together.