MLG Defiled - a forger's Sketchup dream

[TheEpicCiabatta]

If you are interested in testing this map, follow this link (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4291846&posted=1#post4291846) to PulseKiller's thread.

Well, since my 360 got the RRoD and I didn't really feel like hooking up my old Xbox and playing Halo 2, I decided to create a map on Sketchup that I could work on when I got my box back. The end result of several hours of clicking is as follows. Please note that I don't have the nice-looking template like Fritzer does, and I'm using the standard one provided on the forge forum main page.

Because of my 360's unfortunate accident, I was unable to begin work on this map. However, PulseKiller, an extremely talented forger, was able to craft this map (and far better than I could've ever made, as I'm not the best with foundry out there). This thread has been updated with Pulse's work to this point. Please note that the forge version of the map isn't finished quite yet.

In a nutshell, Defiled is a 2-base symmetrical foundry map. However, it is much, much more than its generic description gives it. The best way I can describe it is this - Onslaught, Midship, Lockout, and Zenith all got together and had a baby. This is that baby.

Map overview:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8730/overheadkk6.png

Pulse's work:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53123357-Full.jpg

There are 4 main elements to Defiled. You have the bases, the tower (what will be known as "A side" in the future), the nameless side that will become "B side," and the midmap. When designing this map, I wanted to create a map that flowed seamlessly and had just the right balance of cover and openness. I also wanted to keep future power weapons in mind, as well as create map positions that are powerful, but not invincible.

You may have noticed that there isn't a wall. This is due to my wall being mainly constructed of materials not available for your use in Sketchup (fence boxes, fence walls).

The Bases:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1841/baseoverheadmj0.png

Pulse's work:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/Base1.jpg

Arguably the most important feature of any foundry map, Defiled's bases are open, but not too open, similar to the bases of both Onslaught and Lockdown. A double box is home of the main "platform" of the base. A unique double box and bridge geomerge will result in a base that has a two-way traffic flow both above and below.

Base, top view:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2620/basetopvf4.png

Base, bottom angle:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9280/baseunderwp3.png
A may include a door or sign under the base between the two bridges, similar to that of Amp.

While not technically part of the bases, the A Plat and B Plat connect the top level of the bases to A Tower and B Side.

A Plat:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8945/asideplatrf8.png

B Plat:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/3848/bsideplatio1.png

"A" Side/Tower:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2640/asidetowerhj6.png

Pulse's work:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53123038-Full.jpg

The tower was designed to be a power position on the map because of its high elevation and excellent lines of sight. The small amount of cover forces players controlling the tower to play smart to avoid getting forced out of the tower. The tunnels underneath can provide a quick and sneaky route from under one base to the other or to bottom mid.

Tower, angle shot:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5559/asidetoweranglexg2.png

"A" side tunnels:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7123/asidetunneloa0.png

"B" Side:[/b]
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6861/bsidejw2.png

Pulse's work:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030541-Full.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030545-Full.jpg

Essentially, "B" side can be divided into "high" and "low." The indented part, which will involve a combination wall/floor geoglitch, has excellent cover but very poor lines of sight, whereas the elevated platform has little cover but lines of sight to rival those of the tower. While not originally designed to be as powerful a position as the tower, "B" side will no doubt play a crucial role in Defiled's gameplay.

Angled view of "B" side:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2694/bsideanglezi9.png

[u]Midmap:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4194/midmapmh9.png

Directly connected to "B" side, midmap is certain to be the site of many mid-range BR battles and close-quarters fights. Top mid has sparse cover, but will be certain to be a key position to hold as it provides direct routes to tower, "B" side, and both of the bases.

Angled top view:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4560/midmaptopanglekd5.png

Another angled top view:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2471/midmaptopangle2if8.png

Bottom Mid:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/576/midmapunderxr3.png

In conclusion...
I will begin work on this map as soon as I get my box back. If you have any questions or comments about the map, feel free to ask.

[Ix_Atticus_xI]

My question is; Will you have enough material/budget to get this finished?
This very good, but also looks as if it will be improbable to finish for that reason. Now i didnt go and count all the things in the pictures, but it looks as if you went over your material/budget.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

My question is; Will you have enough material/budget to get this finished?
This very good, but also looks as if it will be improbable to finish for that reason. Now i didnt go and count all the things in the pictures, but it looks as if you went over your material/budget.

I counted everything, and I ended up with 27 double boxes, 16 single boxes, 14 double walls, 16 single walls, and 15 bridges. I might have to budget glitch (I hope I don't have to), just because of the complexity of the map. Even with most of my walls and bridges used, I should have enough objects to complete my wall. The map itself is going to be extremely tricky to forge, especially B side and the tower, but I believe I can do it.

[QodLyyy]

I counted everything, and I ended up with 27 double boxes, 16 single boxes, 14 double walls, 16 single walls, and 15 bridges. I might have to budget glitch (I hope I don't have to), just because of the complexity of the map. Even with most of my walls and bridges used, I should have enough objects to complete my wall. The map itself is going to be extremely tricky to forge, especially B side and the tower, but I believe I can do it.

You can only place 24 double boxes, I think. You could possibly use open double boxes in areas which dont need them though. Otherwise, you would have to block off the entrances, perhaps using open single boxes.
But the map looks freaking awesome.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

You can only place 24 double boxes, I think. You could possibly use open double boxes in areas which dont need them though. Otherwise, you would have to block off the entrances, perhaps using open single boxes.
But the map looks freaking awesome.

Yes, I was planning on using open double boxes, as I believe you get either 16 or 8 of those. I would most likely use open double boxes for the tower, since closed boxes are the least trouble to geoglitch. I would most likely use any left over boxes for the wall.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Sorry for double post.

Does anyone have a link to where I can download that Forge budget spreadsheet? I checked on the stickied thread but the link doesn't work anymore. I want to see if this map is possible.

[iM_xZonKeD]

Angled view of "B" side:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2694/bsideanglezi9.png


idea i think would be pretty crazy for this tower. where you have the middle ramp on the side from the floor have geod down stairs to the lower platform. From the picture looks like it would work idk though czuase i cnt design it in sketchup.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Angled view of "B" side:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2694/bsideanglezi9.png


idea i think would be pretty crazy for this tower. where you have the middle ramp on the side from the floor have geod down stairs to the lower platform. From the picture looks like it would work idk though czuase i cnt design it in sketchup.

I think I see what you're getting at, and that would be pretty sick. I'll have to look into it.

[Brutal_iZ_Pro]

Nice, that must have taken a lot of hard work and effort.

[Dark_Assassn]

Wow, looks great. The structure of it looks solid but you should make sure to give it that MLG look, like Amp has.

[iTaLiAn0]

it looks good

[n0tjack]

Most promising map I've seen for a while. Hopefully you can actually do all of that. gl

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Nice, that must have taken a lot of hard work and effort.

:-P
I would be working on it right now if not for my Xbox dying...

Most promising map I've seen for a while. Hopefully you can actually do all of that. gl

I hope I can too

Wow, looks great. The structure of it looks solid but you should make sure to give it that MLG look, like Amp has.

I'll try to make the map as clean and refined as possible.

[Smoke1Drank9]

oh please make this map

[PulseKiller]

I am working on this map instead of Ciabatta currently, since he has the RRoD, and so far I have finished one base and am working on the other I will put screenshots in this thread to keep people updated who want to know how the map is coming alone.

Here is a picture of the first base:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/Base1.jpg

[ZoroSeerus]

I am working on this map instead of Ciabatta currently, since he has the RRoD, and so far I have finished one base and am working on the other I will put screenshots in this thread to keep people updated who want to know how the map is coming alone.

Here is a picture of the first base:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/Base1.jpg
They are geod correct? Make sure you geo them if they aren't.

[PulseKiller]

The Double boxes against the wall are geod, but that is all that needs geoing.

[PulseKiller]

Update: Both bases now finished

[.Reminisce.]

I am working on this map instead of Ciabatta currently, since he has the RRoD, and so far I have finished one base and am working on the other I will put screenshots in this thread to keep people updated who want to know how the map is coming alone.

Here is a picture of the first base:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/Base1.jpg
I like this.
Can't wait to try it when it's all completed.
Good luck!

[PulseKiller]

I like this.
Can't wait to try it when it's all completed.
Good luck!


I cant wait to see what this is like when it is done also.

Update: I have finished both bases completely and have made everything run very smooth.

[Bozzle]

It's looking nice and clean Pulse...definitely up for testing when it's done, no matter how far away that time may be :P , you know where I'll be.

[PulseKiller]

Update: B side is now finished.

Here are some pics:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030541-Full.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030545-Full.jpg

[Smoke1Drank9]

Yo dude send me an invite ill be glad to test this out with you.

[PulseKiller]

I will send you an invite when I get this finished, which should be in a few days

[PulseKiller]

Update: all map geometry finished. Now just need to add cover, spawns, weapons, and wall

[theseventhstar]

Hey Pulse, invite me for some testing. It looks really nice. Hopefully we can get some people to join, unlike yesterday when I was the only one that joined.


I think it was you that invited me...

GT: brian edge

[PulseKiller]

I am actually off for the night, and I may not be able to get on tommorrow, but when I finish the map, I will be sure to invite you.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Pulse, the work you've done on this map looks awesome. I'll have to help you test when I get my box back. I can help with some ideas for cover if you need them.

[n0tjack]

Holy crap pulse lookin good. Add me plaz.

[PulseKiller]

I will add some new pics of Tower side shortly. Also, if you would like to help me test this, post in this thread and send me a FR on XBL. I should hopefully be testing tommorrow or the next day.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

I will add some new pics of Tower side shortly. Also, if you would like to help me test this, post in this thread and send me a FR on XBL. I should hopefully be testing tommorrow or the next day.

I might be going to my friend's house over the weekend, and he has a working 360 and one hell of an XBL connection. I can test if I can get to his house.

[iM_xZonKeD]

Send me a friend request at: xZonKeD. I have some ideas for this map that i think would be really good for map movement. So hit me up.

[PulseKiller]

2 New pictures, and then I will post the rest of them so that you can get a feel for the map.
Note: Some of the pictures I am about to post, were posted before the rest of the map was finished, so parts of the map WILL be missing. Also, I am not done blocking off the map yet.



New Pics:
Tower
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53123038-Full.jpg

Overview
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53123357-Full.jpg

Old Pics:

B Side
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030541-Full.jpg

B Side walkway and drop-down
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/53030545-Full.jpg

Base
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Pologo/Base1.jpg

[TheEpicCiabatta]

I must admit, the tower looks sexier than I could've ever made it. Once the wall is finished, cover (and maybe jump-ups?) are added and weapons and spawns are worked out, this is going to be one hell of a map.

[PulseKiller]

I should be able to finish the cover, spawns, jump-ups, weapons, and wall tomorrow, and hopefully I can get some testing in.

I am really excited to see how this plays.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

If you could upload some gameplay video, that would be really awesome. I really like what you've done with the meager sketchup file I gave you. I believe that once it's finished, this map will be simply amazing.

[theseventhstar]

WOW! This looks amazing.

Unfortunately, I'll be at work tomorrow night. I get out of at school at 12:30pm and I can play until about 4pm, then work 5pm to 10pm(all Eastern Time), so hopefully you'll have it done by then! :D

It looks really nice. I'll add you when I get home tomorrow.

[MagicSooners]

Looks like a sick map. I'm looking forward to trying it when its done.

[xDynamitex]

that looks SICK NASTY!!!!
it would be awesome if you can pull this off

:)


oh and +rep:pwned:

[FL3x`LuTH0R]

This....looks....awesome.

+rep. Cannot wait to see the finished project.

[PulseKiller]

Ciabatta, you should update the first post with the pictures.

And also, testing most likely will not happen tomorrow, and if it does, it will not be many games. Testing will most likely happen the day after tomorrow.

I will keep this thread updated with pictures as I finish off other parts of the map.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Alright, I'll add in pics tomorrow, I have to get off for tonight.

[themlgnarly]

iris and the goo goo dolls or gtfo

[DeDaW]

Looks great. Would love to help test. :)

[Skeezer02]

I agree this looks like hell of a map, I'd love to help out in testing!

[frodan]

looks SO sick! i would love to test this map. what gametypes would be on it? i think KOTH fight for the tower and bases could be something worth trying.

gt: frodan

[SkyIight]

Wow. Just wow.
I think i'm in love.

[PulseKiller]

Remember: If you would like to be included in the testing of this map make sure to send me a friend request to the gamertag PulseKiller. If you do not send me a friend request, I will not be hunting everyone down to come test this out. Since it seems many people want to help test this map, I would much prefer it if everyone could just send me a FR and a message if you didnt post here

[relentless_pain]

looks great.When you are finshed can you post the link to download it? Also, What gametypes are you planing to use it for?

[PulseKiller]

I will post the download link after all testing has been finished to ensure that people will not be turned away from the map in the future because of a bad test version.

I would like to test out all MLG gametypes on this map, plus bomb, just to see how they work out.

[PulseKiller]

Also... I didnt think that I could pull it off, but I may be able to make this without budget glitching. At my current state I have around $200, maybe even more.

[GandalfTheGrey]

looks amazing. cant wait for the finished product.

[PulseKiller]

Well, I am off for the night. Keep the comments flowing and I really hope I can get some testing in tomorrow!

[-Berserker-]

its sad that it has come down to forgers making better maps than bungie makes

oh well it looks sick and hopefully it plays well. what gametypes do u plan on this map supporting? and also do have any ideas of what power weapons ur going to place on the map or where ur gonna put them?

[xShRooM]

looks complicated but should be sick

[Shipwr3ck]

So far this map looks very solid.

Great job.

[LastRites23]

Amazing concept and great execution. Great work both of you, I hope it plays as well as it looks!

[TrMako]

Looks awesome, can't wait to test it out.

As far as power weapons go, I'm thinking no rockets or snipe. I'm thinking this'll play kinda like midship, only a a little more open; and I loved that midship was just straight BRs. Maybe add a mauler?

But meh, just my opinion. I have 0 experience with forge so I'll trust ya'lls judgement.

[BeasTea]

so pumped looks damn sexy

good luck

[RJB34]

MAd cant wait

Send it to me when u make it


Gamertag: to riley

[H2o h8eD 650]

Map looks sweeeeet. I sent you a FR. Just hook me up with an invite whenever you start testing.

[itz_Biologic]

looks great man i like the idea for the middle

[BadBall3r]

If you make this map that would be sick!

[Artox]

Wow. Amazing looking map. Hopefully KC sees this map. If not you should try to contact him in some way. This map looks way better then AMP and even Ons. KC could also help with spawns and **** if you need it. He really seems to know a lot about the halo 3 spawn system and how to make the spawns more fair. GL and I can't wait to see the finished product.

[The_Neon]

This looks sick. I sent you a F/R pulse.

[n0tjack]

That's some impressively fast forging for the quality of the map dude.

[PulseKiller]

I am someone who does things really fast, but still cares a lot about precision. I should be getting this map finished in the next hour or two, and then I will probably run some tests from around 7-9 Est time.

[HoBgObLiN]

Wow looks pretty nice. Good luck with it :)

[n0tjack]

I am someone who does things really fast, but still cares a lot about precision. I should be getting this map finished in the next hour or two, and then I will probably run some tests from around 7-9 Est time.

I'm no forger but I know a few of them and they're spending hours on single ramps, and these are some of the best. It really seems unprecedented.

[PulseKiller]

I will take that long if necessary, but that is normally not needed.

Wall is nearly done.. should be testing later tonight or tomorrow.

[Bozzle]

Looked at the map with Pulse and it is made of win....no doubt it'll play amazing with the right gametypes. Amazing effort from Pulse, disgustingly good precision as well :P. GJ man.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Added Pulse's work to main thread.

[PulseKiller]

This sucks... I had my map blocked off and I saved it, then when I went to go play it again, everything was missing. Luckily I had a backup version saved, so I can just re block it off, but I almost lost the entire map there.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

This sucks... I had my map blocked off and I saved it, then when I went to go play it again, everything was missing. Luckily I had a backup version saved, so I can just re block it off, but I almost lost the entire map there.

:o Close shave there.
I'm PMing you my cover ideas. My notes are kinda crappy, if you need help deciphering them I can try to make them more clear.

[Scavengerv2]

when your done can u put it on your file share so i can just look around it myself. I have a feeling this map is going to be great. Great job to both of u guys.

[PulseKiller]

Sorry that I couldnt get this map finished today, but I lost an hours worth of work when my map got messed up. I should be able to finish it tomorrow. I will definitely be testing this weekend and will hopefully be testing before then. I will keep you guys posted ont he progress

[Jackass_Jon]

add me gt is in the sig. But let me get this straight. Epic designed this and oulse is building it?

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Sorry that I couldnt get this map finished today, but I lost an hours worth of work when my map got messed up. I should be able to finish it tomorrow. I will definitely be testing this weekend and will hopefully be testing before then. I will keep you guys posted ont he progress

It's ok. I'll send you some spawn/weapon ideas if you so desire.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

add me gt is in the sig. But let me get this straight. Epic designed this and oulse is building it?

Yes, I designed the map but due to my RRoD, I was unable to construct it. Pulse built the map with stunning results :)

[xRED]

amazing concept ciabatta, love it. also, i'm game for helping test pulse, hit me up.

gt= xREDD

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Sent you some ideas for weapons and spawns pulse.

[PulseKiller]

I read it and I sent you some messages back

[PulseKiller]

CTF Gameplay (http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/893266)

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Gameplay looks solid. Can't wait for my xbox to get back so I can finally play on my brainchild :)

[iM_xZonKeD]

Pulse when you get on send me an inv i got a great idea for cover and it would add some nice lines of sight by cutting off others.

[XzampleZZ]

if you finish this map im always on to test a new map

[iM_xZonKeD]

its finished.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Might get a mod to change the name of the topic and make it solely the Forge work. I probably will once I have access to a 360 so I can upload some pretty screenies.

[PulseKiller]

Or.... I could make a new thread and upload screenies/gameplay

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Or.... I could make a new thread and upload screenies/gameplay

Maybe. Although I've noticed a thread gets more hits if it already has lots of responses and views.

[Down_Cry]

im pretty sure you can change it yourself just click on the name in the topic list

[Scavengerv2]

can u put this map on your file share? Great job already like it lol

[TheEpicCiabatta]

im pretty sure you can change it yourself just click on the name in the topic list

I tried, didn't work.

[TheEpicCiabatta]

Please head over to PulseKiller's thread (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4291846&posted=1#post4291846) if you're interested in testing.

[Loadedddd]

Just finished testing this with PulseKiller, plays great. Nice job with the design.