View Full Version : MLG Guardian 1v1
3ndGam3
11-13-2008, 11:35 PM
MLG Guardian 1v1 (http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=58060924)
I did a little and I do mean a little forging on Guardian to make it a little more 1v1 friendly. I did this because Guardian is one of my favorite maps and it has been slightly bashed as not very competitive in 1v1 gameplay.
Starting Spawns:
The two starting spawns on this map are Gold 1 and Snipe 1 allowing for the players to spawn with eachother directly in their line of sight. This allows you to either get into an immediate BR Battle or go for a power-up/ power weapon.
Gold Spawn
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goldspawnuz7.jpg
Snipe Spawn
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s1spawnal4.jpg
Power-ups:
There are two power-ups on the map Camo and Custom OS
Camo Location
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camohu1.jpg
Custom OS Location
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osspawntd3.jpg
Power Weapon Location:
Snipe at S3
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3snipelu1.jpg
Snipe at Shotgun
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shottysnipesea9.jpg
Weapon and Power-Up Timings
1 Camo - 60 seconds
1 Custom OS - 60 Seconds
2 Sniper Rifles - 60 Seconds 0 Spare clips Drop Spawn
4 Battle Rifles - 10 Seconds 2 Spare Clips
4 Carbines - 90 Seconds 2 Spare Clips
MLG 1v1 Gametype (http://www.bungie.net/OnlinMLG 1v1 Gametypee/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=58060921)
Player Traits
Shield Recharge Rate: 50%
Damage Modifier: 110%
Speed: 110%
Motion Tracker: Off
Respawn Time: 3 Seconds
Suicide Penalty
Kills:0
Respawn Time: 3 Seconds
Custom Power-Up Traits
Duration: 3 Seconds
Damage Resistance: Invulnerable
Shield Multiplier: 3X Overshields
Shield Recharge Rate: 200%
MLG Guardian 1v1 (http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=58060924)
MLG 1v1 Gametype (http://www.bungie.net/OnlinMLG 1v1 Gametypee/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=58060921)
If anyone can tell me how to embed the pics I'd appreciate it.
Shout out to my boy TM Tactix for taking the screenshots because my XBOX is currently taken lols even though he didn't take the pics in Forge like I asked haha.
SMG_Go_Blue
11-13-2008, 11:40 PM
I think it's too easy to get the Cammo and the Custom....Maybe you should move the custom to elbow, right where it turns to go to S2....
Just a suggestion.
3ndGam3
11-13-2008, 11:45 PM
I think it's too easy to get the Cammo and the Custom....Maybe you should move the custom to elbow, right where it turns to go to S2....
Just a suggestion.
Yes that is true assuming they are both up at the same time I was thinking about moving Camo but also getting both Camo and OS is pretty much burning Camo. I will most likely change the location to see how it works out.
LiL_Nandi
11-13-2008, 11:54 PM
I dunno about the OS, I personally think u shouldn't add it.
SMG_Go_Blue
11-14-2008, 12:00 AM
Well Cammo in a 1v1 is unfair - and OS just at Gold is unfair for the guy at S1....
_TaK_
11-14-2008, 12:24 AM
1. Custom and Camo are to close togather, get Custom, lift, get Camo. One power-up at Tree one at Blue. Also don't use same time on respawns, use :45 for OS :60 for Camo to prevent running a loop and continually snaging both.
2. Gaurdian in itself is too big for a 1v1 it may be playable, but I think it needs atleast 125% speed.
3. I had so many more points but I'm lazy right now and can't think properly.
SMG_Go_Blue
11-14-2008, 12:26 AM
I think if you could actually cut off top blue....it could work. Maybe the whole blue in general. There could still be that lift, but that's about it. That way it's just gold and sniper and green, which isn't too big.
nicka
11-14-2008, 12:37 AM
1. Custom and Camo are to close togather, get Custom, lift, get Camo. One power-up at Tree one at Blue. Also don't use same time on respawns, use :45 for OS :60 for Camo to prevent running a loop and continually snaging both.
2. Gaurdian in itself is too big for a 1v1 it may be playable, but I think it needs atleast 125% speed.
3. I had so many more points but I'm lazy right now and can't think properly.
Listen to tak, he knows 1v1
3ndGam3
11-14-2008, 01:03 AM
Have any of you played the map? I know your thoughts may sound good in theory but with the respawn time and shield recharge rate you rarely get camo and os and if you do you completely disregard sniper which only has four bullets. Also off the initial rush to get power-ups/weapons and the constant I can't get that powerup I'm in a BR fight both are rarely up at the same time.
Edit: How are the Sniper Placements. I placed them in the way they are so that you would actually have to be looking to see if it's there not just seeing S3 snipe from Gold 2 (forcing you to move).
_P0K1T_
11-14-2008, 02:21 AM
it looks ok i dont think the OS spawn is that great just some constuctive critisism
no0obs
11-14-2008, 02:24 AM
hmm. looks pretty kool. ill try it out.
Kablaaaaam
11-14-2008, 03:14 AM
1. Move OS to stump.
2. Move camo to blue hall.
HK_Trammell
11-14-2008, 08:00 AM
It is up to your because that is what forge is for to create something for your personal taste but i would not have any OS,or Camo also what may be a good addition to your map is for 1v1\'s is to put your sniper at top mid creating for someone that is controlling snipe-tower would normally stay control of sniper thorough out the game now has too leave and go top mid to get the sniper just my opinion
3ndGam3
11-14-2008, 04:29 PM
It is up to your because that is what forge is for to create something for your personal taste but i would not have any OS,or Camo also what may be a good addition to your map is for 1v1\'s is to put your sniper at top mid creating for someone that is controlling snipe-tower would normally stay control of sniper thorough out the game now has too leave and go top mid to get the sniper just my opinion
If MLG Stole My BR your gt I've played with you multiple times.
I'm thinking about moving OS to near S3 that way it is visible from more of the map and lifting to snipe will be more like lifting to Camo. As well as placing S3 Snipe more towards elbow. Yea I know it sounds weird.
Skunkfoot
11-16-2008, 03:02 PM
I play 1v1's on Guardian every day to warm up dude, it's fine the way it is (though we usually play no camo just cause it's a bit cheap 1v1). You don't need OS and another sniper. Camo already evens out the other sniper. Either you're invisible or you have a sniper. Plus that, two powerups and two power weapons is too much for a 1v1 fight, especially if you're spawning this stuff every minute or less.
Your spawns aren't any better than the current ones. I understand what you're going for, but you've got to realize that these new spawns increase the potential for getting spawn killed. You should spawn behind some sort of cover, especially if there's a sniper on each side of the map.
And that guy's right, OS is way too close to camo. How could you not see that? Someone spawns elbow, gets custom, and still has time to make it to camo before the other guy (maybe). That's why they put the sniper almost directly on the opposite side of the map from camo. If you want an OS, put it like S2 where the original OS used to be. (Which is also there because it's directly opposite camo)
Zanno
11-18-2008, 03:28 PM
I play 1v1's on Guardian every day to warm up dude, it's fine the way it is (though we usually play no camo just cause it's a bit cheap 1v1). You don't need OS and another sniper. Camo already evens out the other sniper. Either you're invisible or you have a sniper. Plus that, two powerups and two power weapons is too much for a 1v1 fight, especially if you're spawning this stuff every minute or less.
Your spawns aren't any better than the current ones. I understand what you're going for, but you've got to realize that these new spawns increase the potential for getting spawn killed. You should spawn behind some sort of cover, especially if there's a sniper on each side of the map.
And that guy's right, OS is way too close to camo. How could you not see that? Someone spawns elbow, gets custom, and still has time to make it to camo before the other guy (maybe). That's why they put the sniper almost directly on the opposite side of the map from camo. If you want an OS, put it like S2 where the original OS used to be. (Which is also there because it's directly opposite camo)no it isn't, it makes no sense to put the sniper in the strongest power position in 1v1
3x OS is extreme though
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