Assembly and Orbital Forge Palate Reviled

[Jackass_Jon]

Taken from this Bungie's most recent Weekly Update.

Assembly

Starting Budget (Default Objects on Map) $252

Full Budget $550

WEAPONS
16 ASSAULT RIFLE $2
16 BATTLE RIFLE $2
8 BEAM RIFLE $2
8 BRUTE SHOT $2
16 COVENANT CARBINE $2
8 ENERGY SWORD $2
1 FLAMETHROWER $10
4 FUEL ROD GUN $6
8 GRAVITY HAMMER $2
4 MACHINE GUN TURRET $6
16 MAGNUM $2
8 MAULER $2
8 NEEDLER $2
4 PLASMA CANNON $6
8 PLASMA PISTOL $2
16 PLASMA RIFLE $2
8 ROCKET LAUNCHER $2
8 SHOTGUN $2
16 SMG $2
8 SNIPER RIFLE $2
8 SPARTAN LASER $2
16 SPIKER $2
8 SENTINEL BEAM $2

VEHICLES
4 GHOST $15
8 MONGOOSE $10

SCENERY
16 BARRIER $4
16 CAMPING STOOL $2
16 COMM NODE $4
20 PLASMA BATTERY $4
20 POWER CORE $4
4 TUBE SHIELD $4
12 SUPPLY CASE, OPEN $2
20 SUPPLY CASE $5
8 LIFT BLOCKER $4
8 WEAPON HOLDER $3
4 GRAV LIFT $5
8 SHIELD DOOR, LARGE $4
8 SHIELD DOOR $4
8 CANNON, MAN $4
4 SOCCER BALL $4
1 FX, NOVA $15
1 FX, PEN AND INK $15
1 FX, OLDE TIMEY $15
1 FX, COLORBLIND $15
1 FX, GLOOMY $15
1 FX, JUICY $15

ORBITAL

Starting Budget (Default Objects on Map) $251

Full Budget $700

WEAPONS
16 ASSAULT RIFLE $2
16 BATTLE RIFLE $2
8 BEAM RIFLE $2
8 BRUTE SHOT $2
16 COVENANT CARBINE $2
8 ENERGY SWORD $2
1 FLAMETHROWER $10
4 FUEL ROD GUN $6
8 GRAVITY HAMMER $2
4 MACHINE GUN TURRET $6
16 MAGNUM $2
8 MAULER $2
8 NEEDLER $2
4 PLASMA CANNON $6
8 PLASMA PISTOL $2
16 PLASMA RIFLE $2
8 ROCKET LAUNCHER $2
8 SHOTGUN $2
16 SMG $2
8 SNIPER RIFLE $2
8 SPARTAN LASER $2
16 SPIKER $2
8 SENTINEL BEAM $2

VEHICLES
4 GHOST $15
8 MONGOOSE $10

SCENERY
20 SUPPLY CASE $5
32 FUSION COIL $4
8 CARDBOARD BOX, MEDIUM $3
8 CARDBOARD BOX, SMALL $3
16 SPACE TRASHCAN $2
20 STREET CONE $2
8 TOOLBOX $4
8 TOOLBOX, SMALL $2
8 PALLET $3
16 PROPANE TANK $4
8 WIRE SPOOL $4
8 SERVER $4
8 GENERATOR $4
16 DOOR $4
8 WEAPON HOLDER $3
4 GRAV LIFT $5
8 SHIELD DOOR $4
8 CANNON, MAN $4
4 SOCCER BALL $4
1 FX, PEN AND INK $15
1 FX, OLDE TIMEY $15
1 FX, COLORBLIND $15
1 FX, GLOOMY $15
1 FX, JUICY $15

An intriguing part is something on Assembly's list, called the "Lift Blocker". I'm hoping this is literal and will block the grav lifts on the map.

[b0b43]

Hmmm doesn't sound like we can do much with these, in comparison to the Legendary and Heroic maps. Sandbox will make up for them though. The lift blocker does sound like we will be able to block the lifts in the bases and rocket tower, but how will they work? I was also hoping for some one-way glass on Assembly, but I guess not.

EDIT: After watching that video on Joystiq, I noticed a lot of fusion coils in the walls. Hopefully we will be able to delete them and not have to put up with them like on Construct and Guardian.

On orbital it seems all we have to work with is 16 doors. The rest just sound like scenery to me. It sort of kills the hope that it could be turned around into a decent 1v1, unless a forger can be quite creative.

[nicka]

ORBITAL

Starting Budget (Default Objects on Map) $251

Full Budget $700

WEAPONS
16 ASSAULT RIFLE $2
16 BATTLE RIFLE $2
8 BEAM RIFLE $2
8 BRUTE SHOT $2
16 COVENANT CARBINE $2
8 ENERGY SWORD $2
1 FLAMETHROWER $10
4 FUEL ROD GUN $6
8 GRAVITY HAMMER $2
4 MACHINE GUN TURRET $6
16 MAGNUM $2
8 MAULER $2
8 NEEDLER $2
4 PLASMA CANNON $6
8 PLASMA PISTOL $2
16 PLASMA RIFLE $2
8 ROCKET LAUNCHER $2
8 SHOTGUN $2
16 SMG $2
8 SNIPER RIFLE $2
8 SPARTAN LASER $2
16 SPIKER $2
8 SENTINEL BEAM $2

VEHICLES
4 GHOST $15
8 MONGOOSE $10

SCENERY
20 SUPPLY CASE $5
32 FUSION COIL $4
8 CARDBOARD BOX, MEDIUM $3
8 CARDBOARD BOX, SMALL $3
16 SPACE TRASHCAN $2
20 STREET CONE $2
8 TOOLBOX $4
8 TOOLBOX, SMALL $2
8 PALLET $3
16 PROPANE TANK $4
8 WIRE SPOOL $4
8 SERVER $4
8 GENERATOR $4
16 DOOR $4
8 WEAPON HOLDER $3
4 GRAV LIFT $5
8 SHIELD DOOR $4
8 CANNON, MAN $4
4 SOCCER BALL $4
1 FX, PEN AND INK $15
1 FX, OLDE TIMEY $15
1 FX, COLORBLIND $15
1 FX, GLOOMY $15
1 FX, JUICY $15


thank god bungie included the space trashcan...
i was worried they might forget.

No, but in all seriousness i am really curious to see what all of these new items are.
the lift blocker intrigues me also.

oh, and Jon, i love it when Bungie "reviles" things

[Jackass_Jon]

Hmmm doesn't sound like we can do much with these, in comparison to the Legendary and Heroic maps. Sandbox will make up for them though. The lift blocker does sound like we will be able to block the lifts in the bases and rocket tower, but how will they work? I was also hoping for some one-way glass on Assembly, but I guess not.

On orbital it seems all we have to work with is 16 doors. The rest just sound like scenery to me. It sort of kills the hope that it could be turned around into a decent 1v1, unless a forger can be quite creative.

From the videos i think Orbital was a lost cause from the stop. Assembly looks like it will play competitively without a lot of changes added, and its curvy geometry will be almost impossible to replicate in Sandbox. Barring that fact i think its safe to see we may see Assembly in v7.

Oh and their is one way glass on Assembly. In the bases you can see out but not in. From what Ash has told us, it seems useless because you can't quickly pop out to take a shot. Although i can see it being good when you have the ball or flag. (Depending on Flag settings)

Edit: Nicka: :evil:

[dylman36]

thats very limited not even any bridges every heroic and legendary map had walls bridges and boxes but iguess thats what sandbox is for and hopefully they wont need much change

[nicka]

Edit: Nicka: :evil:

i kid, i kid

[ledzeppelin2112]

I have heard in game videos for the mythic maps that the blue cylinder things on Assembly are reffered to as shield tubes. This troubles me. It makes me think that these shield tubes will behave the same way as a bubble shiled, without going away of course. This would completely ruin a map with great potential.

[yourself.]

No, but in all seriousness i am really curious to see what all of these new items are.
the lift blocker intrigues me also.



Lets ask those whom already have the maps =)

Answers NAO! Pl0x. :bow:

[Jackass_Jon]

I have heard in game videos for the mythic maps that the blue cylinder things on Assembly are reffered to as shield tubes. This troubles me. It makes me think that these shield tubes will behave the same way as a bubble shiled, without going away of course. This would completely ruin a map with great potential.

How would that ruin the map? I was aware of only one on the map (in the middle) and the fact they have been listed as items means that even that one could be removable.

Branching off that, anyone think we may be able to make some decent pillars with them?

Also Yourself, everyone who has them seems to be too busy playing them. :???:

[yourself.]

I'm sure that one of the selected forgers could load it up and take a sneek peek for us.

[b0b43]

From the videos i think Orbital was a lost cause from the stop. Assembly looks like it will play competitively without a lot of changes added, and its curvy geometry will be almost impossible to replicate in Sandbox. Barring that fact i think its safe to see we may see Assembly in v7.

Oh and their is one way glass on Assembly. In the bases you can see out but not in. From what Ash has told us, it seems useless because you can't quickly pop out to take a shot. Although i can see it being good when you have the ball or flag. (Depending on Flag settings)

Edit: Nicka: :evil:

Sorry I should of made myself clearer. I mean that I was hoping that we would have placeable one-way glass on Assembly. I knew that it was already on the map.

It seems that Bungie has sort of just forgotton Assembly and Orbital in relation to forge. If you look at any Heroic/Legendary map, they all have considerable items that enable us to work these maps into entirely new maps. For example, on Ghost Town we have Greenhouse and on Blackout, which has never really looked like anything decent to forge on, if you look at forgehubs recent featured maps you will see 8 Emerald Legs which is one of the most creative, amazing forge maps I have ever seen. When I look at these item lists, they kind of dissapoint because there isn't too much to work with.

But maybe I am being a bit too harsh here. When we take into account the potential of Assembly (and Orbital, it looks to be quite good even if it isn't for MLG) as well as the infinite possiblities of Sandbox, these are extremely minor problems. Putting it in perspective, it is hardly a problem at all.

[Jackass_Jon]

Sorry I should of made myslef clearer. I mean that I was hoping that we would have placeable one-way glass on Assembly. I knew that it was already on the map.

It seems that Bungie has sort of just forgotton Assembly and Orbital in relation to forge. If you look at any Heroic/Legendary map, they all have considerable items that enable us to work these maps into entirely new maps. For example, on Ghost Town we have Greenhouse and on Blackout, which has never really looked like anything decent to forge on, if you look at forgehubs recent featured maps you will see 8 Emerald Legs which is one of the most creative, amazing forge maps I have ever seen. When I look at these item lists, they kind of dissapoint because there isn't too much to work with.

But maybe I am being a bit too harsh here. When we take into account the potential of Assembly (and Orbital, it looks to be quite good even if it isn't for MLG) as well as the infinite possiblities of Sandbox, these are extremely minor problems. Putting it in perspective, it is hardly a problem at all.


I agree it seems that they dropped Assembly and Orbital from the forge list, but Sandbox will make up for it. Also, i think they just added extra items into the Legendary map pack to give Forgers something. I mean, the Heroic pack had Foundry, but the Legendary pack had no real maps for forging. So they used Blackout, Avalanche, and Ghost town to kinda fill the void. Although Ghost Town has one of the most original palates.

[xPPx_Rampage]

aww, this was gonna be my first thread... :( lol

oh well, and yes space trash can is a necessity.

maybe the lift blocker is just to block vehicles from going through. Oh well we should ask someone to upload vids, I'll for sure upload one if I get a code.

EDIT: I hope Assembly is good it looks like it could be fun from the little I've seen. Orbital looks like a mongoose track/maze/regular team slayer map. Sandbox obviously has vast capabilities.

this palate looks fine to me from a glance, normal amount of things or atleast it looks like it.

[T3B_Zoltrix]

ORBITAL

thank god bungie included the space trashcan...
i was worried they might forget.


This made me laugh out loud for some reason.

[PoniC]

Bungie's new maps = FAIL

[Backpacked]

ORBITAL

Starting Budget (Default Objects on Map) $251

Full Budget $700

WEAPONS
16 ASSAULT RIFLE $2
16 BATTLE RIFLE $2
8 BEAM RIFLE $2
8 BRUTE SHOT $2
16 COVENANT CARBINE $2
8 ENERGY SWORD $2
1 FLAMETHROWER $10
4 FUEL ROD GUN $6
8 GRAVITY HAMMER $2
4 MACHINE GUN TURRET $6
16 MAGNUM $2
8 MAULER $2
8 NEEDLER $2
4 PLASMA CANNON $6
8 PLASMA PISTOL $2
16 PLASMA RIFLE $2
8 ROCKET LAUNCHER $2
8 SHOTGUN $2
16 SMG $2
8 SNIPER RIFLE $2
8 SPARTAN LASER $2
16 SPIKER $2
8 SENTINEL BEAM $2

VEHICLES
4 GHOST $15
8 MONGOOSE $10

SCENERY
20 SUPPLY CASE $5
32 FUSION COIL $4
8 CARDBOARD BOX, MEDIUM $3
8 CARDBOARD BOX, SMALL $3
16 SPACE TRASHCAN $2
20 STREET CONE $2
8 TOOLBOX $4
8 TOOLBOX, SMALL $2
8 PALLET $3
16 PROPANE TANK $4
8 WIRE SPOOL $4
8 SERVER $4
8 GENERATOR $4
16 DOOR $4
8 WEAPON HOLDER $3
4 GRAV LIFT $5
8 SHIELD DOOR $4
8 CANNON, MAN $4
4 SOCCER BALL $4
1 FX, PEN AND INK $15
1 FX, OLDE TIMEY $15
1 FX, COLORBLIND $15
1 FX, GLOOMY $15
1 FX, JUICY $15


thank god bungie included the space trashcan...
i was worried they might forget.

No, but in all seriousness i am really curious to see what all of these new items are.
the lift blocker intrigues me also.

oh, and Jon, i love it when Bungie "reviles" things

icwatudidthar

[Debo37]

I'm assuming that the limited practical Forge item lists (and therefore the large amount of purely aesthetic objects, a la Space Trashcan) of both Assembly and Orbital mean that their Forge side was geared more toward the machinima community than anyone else. All sorts of aesthetic objects allow machinima directors to create sets. We as Forgers were given Sandbox. And my silly little friend Jon doesn't seem to understand that a "palate" is actually the roof of the mouth. :D

[_TaK_]

I'm assuming that the limited practical Forge item lists (and therefore the large amount of purely aesthetic objects, a la Space Trashcan) of both Assembly and Orbital mean that their Forge side was geared more toward the machinima community than anyone else. All sorts of aesthetic objects allow machinima directors to create sets. We as Forgers were given Sandbox. And my silly little friend Jon doesn't seem to understand that a "palate" is actually the roof of the mouth. :D

Pallet FTW??

I was really looking forward to both of these, actually more so to Orbital, but now, I just really hope we can do something with Orbital.

[Lauxes]

With work, either map could potentially be in v7. Hopefully we can get a change of pace and play some new maps this year. A larger variety is always nice to have.

[IareBodylotion]

what is all this BS for Assembly? 20 chairs and tool boxes? WTF

[yourself.]

Bungie's new maps = FAIL

I hope that you don't mean the mythic map pack.

[The_Raging_Beast]

Bungie's new maps = FAIL
You ( Zonked's little 7 year old friend) = FAIL

[Jackass_Jon]

I'm assuming that the limited practical Forge item lists (and therefore the large amount of purely aesthetic objects, a la Space Trashcan) of both Assembly and Orbital mean that their Forge side was geared more toward the machinima community than anyone else. All sorts of aesthetic objects allow machinima directors to create sets. We as Forgers were given Sandbox. And my silly little friend Jon doesn't seem to understand that a "palate" is actually the roof of the mouth. :D

My spelling = Fail. Where the hell did you come from Debi?

Bungie's new maps = FAIL

-rep

[HITtheLIGHTZ]

Debo is from FH and is premium over there.

[Jackass_Jon]

Debi is from FH and is premium over there.

Fixed.

I know :D

[The_Raging_Beast]

I wanna see some pics and vids of these maps and stuffs .
Please please

[Debo37]

Debo is from FH and is premium over there.
Actually HtL, Jon and I go back quite a ways. I like to consider myself the one responsible for his de-noobification, if you will. XD

Remember The Bump List? Good times, good times. Now is the era of The Cutting Edge, however.

[bnasty574]

i think its safe to see we may see Assembly in v7:

contradicting yourself; we may see it on v7.

[Jackass_Jon]

Actually HtL, Jon and I go back quite a ways. I like to consider myself the one responsible for his de-noobification, if you will. XD

Remember The Bump List? Good times, good times. Now is the era of The Cutting Edge, however.

Please Elaborate on this..... Cutting Edge?

Lights, i knew Debi before he became a Forge Hub Failure.

Edit: You caught be Bnasty!

I hope we see Assembly on v7

[HITtheLIGHTZ]

Yeah assembly ftw, its like midship, derelict, and warlock had some type of consensual map three way that formed some epic baby. Honestly I'm already seeing narrows getting dropped for assembly slayer and flag (Na-Na-na-na......na-na-Na-Na, hey hey hey, goodbye narrows)

[xI_Kevster_lx]

Yeah assembly ftw, its like midship, derelict, and warlock had some type of consensual map three way that formed some epic baby. Honestly I'm already seeing narrows getting dropped for assembly slayer and flag (Na-Na-na-na......na-na-Na-Na, hey hey hey, goodbye narrows)

I <3 Narrows CTF though :(. Assembly being a CTF map?

And is your name from an Metallica song?

[jujumonster]

Yeah assembly ftw, its like midship, derelict, and warlock had some type of consensual map three way that formed some epic baby. Honestly I'm already seeing narrows getting dropped for assembly slayer and flag (Na-Na-na-na......na-na-Na-Na, hey hey hey, goodbye narrows)
It looks like oddball might somehow work and maybe king but thats stretching it. It looks like we may have our midship of Halo 3 (I dont mean it like its a remake but gametype wise)

[bnasty574]

I <3 Narrows CTF though :(. Assembly being a CTF map?

And is your name from an Metallica song?

His name is after the emo band. It's his favorite.

Narrows in general sucks a big one. The map is a dead end, has very minimal routes, random cover, man cannons, and most importantly a severe lack of a working spawn system.

[fanatic66]

I can't wait to get my hands on Assembly. Its looks like it could be my new favorite Halo 3 map. I imagine ts and flag would run great on Assembly, and maybe ball or king too.