Joe to Pro

[Harxey]

Joe to Pro

I have an idea for a "publicity stunt!" I have spoken with a few people I know, including one good friend of mine who made it into the Semi-Pro bracket in Halo 2, on many occasions, for FFA. GT - LoRdYtAdPoLe. All have agreed that it was "brilliant." So I figured I would give it a shot and propose it to some members of the MLG community to see what their thoughts were. So hear me out!

A couple of months ago MLG hosted a "golden ticket" theme, like Willy Wonka, to find two individuals to play with Karma and Naded. I didn't follow this event that vigorously, but I heard that the MLG community received a good amount of publicity for this.

Joe to Pro, is my idea. Take an average Halo 3 player. Someone decent but not good enough to be quite Semi-Pro, and turn them into a pro worthy player in a certain time frame. (Example 30 days) The first person that came to mind in who to reach and bring this idea to was Tsquared, due to his website, Gaming-Lessons.com. Not only would this bring the attention to people toward the MLG website, but if it could be pulled off, Tsquared could have living proof that his website CAN help people improve greatly in their game.

I absolutely love this game, and if you take this into consideration I would love to be the individual you use. I play smart, patient, not clutch. I have a decent BR and some of the best teamwork skills in the Halo 3 community. If you don't feel that I would fit into this for it to be a success, I respect it and will try by my own means as I have been. I won't mind if you still use this, I just ask that I am part of it and I get the recognition for bringing it about.

I'll admit I am a bit leery about proposing this to the wrong person and it get stolen. I just want a way out, and I believe this could be it!.

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[AceNod137]

Sounds very cool, there is something that a forum member made here called From Joe to Pro, where he trained people and such I think. I like your idea though.

[-T_ReX-]

Eh, it'd be nice to see.. In reality I don't think anyone will "waste" their time. I'm not saying it'd be a waste of time, but rather that's how most will look at it from the training view. Yes it would be "nice" and all that, but honestly I don't see anyone actually doing it. That's just how people are.

[k3g4n]

Your family is so broke that you have to help with bills, you barely make enough to cover it, and you're willing to dedicate your life and livelihood to video games?

Get your priorities straight. Pros aren't rolling in money. Pay your bills. You don't have money to spare to quit your job and play halo all day.

[Harxey]

It's not really about money man...

I hate what I do, and where I am.

I had an idea and I'm going for it. That's all

[StaticTerror]

I think this is a good idea but if the joe is to actually make it to semi-pro or pro level then he/she will need a team...that may be a problem. if the joe can't find a good team then it's kinda pointless

EDIT: I re-read the op post and you just said pro-worthy so nevermind. although if that person doesn't actually become pro or semi-pro then MLG probably won't get as much publicity

[RehnX]

Drilling the basic "theory" into someones head(Nade points, Spawns, Set-ups, Jumps) would be too long for just 30 days..

And the meta-game cannot be taught...Habits have to be broken through sheer force of will, Decision making is trial and error on the makers part, Prediction is just from playing a LOT.

Its a 'cool' idea and all..But not practical..

The only way to reach that level is through dedication.

[Cpt_Ahab]

Ok, this is what I got from it, a MLG Made? I think it would be cool tho.

[xsvskills]

Drilling the basic "theory" into someones head(Nade points, Spawns, Set-ups, Jumps) would be too long for just 30 days..

And the meta-game cannot be taught...Habits have to be broken through sheer force of will, Decision making is trial and error on the makers part, Prediction is just from playing a LOT.

Its a 'cool' idea and all..But not practical..

The only way to reach that level is through dedication.

As much as all this is true i still like the idea.

[Harxey]

I think this is a good idea but if the joe is to actually make it to semi-pro or pro level then he/she will need a team...that may be a problem. if the joe can't find a good team then it's kinda pointless

EDIT: I re-read the op post and you just said pro-worthy so nevermind. although if that person doesn't actually become pro or semi-pro then MLG probably won't get as much publicity

Which is why they would pick someone who could actually make it...

Like I mentioned I'd like to, who wouldn't!?
It'd be more T2's thing I would think to pick someone who he felt could really make it...
But yeah if it didn't work.... yeah... would blow.

[smigy]

Drilling the basic "theory" into someones head(Nade points, Spawns, Set-ups, Jumps) would be too long for just 30 days..

And the meta-game cannot be taught...Habits have to be broken through sheer force of will, Decision making is trial and error on the makers part, Prediction is just from playing a LOT.

Its a 'cool' idea and all..But not practical..

The only way to reach that level is through dedication.
AGREED.although it is a really cool idea.

[Harxey]

Ok Adding on...

What about, you do like what reality shows do...

You film it, then if it's a success you release it to the public.... if it fails then... that's that... it's over

[Harxey]

Drilling the basic "theory" into someones head(Nade points, Spawns, Set-ups, Jumps) would be too long for just 30 days..

And the meta-game cannot be taught...Habits have to be broken through sheer force of will, Decision making is trial and error on the makers part, Prediction is just from playing a LOT.

Its a 'cool' idea and all..But not practical..

The only way to reach that level is through dedication.

30 Days is an example... and you wouldn't be picking a complete newbie to do such a task. I agree it would be hard work. But it's not impossible....

I think it was... Kyo? Who was posting his progress trying to get back into the game from Halo 2 and he improved pretty quickly. I think it was a couple months though

Just thinking of ideas... and such

[Moosy]

The MLG Forums are not for your own self-promoting endeavors. Well they are, but you have to be much more subtle about it.

[Harxey]

The MLG Forums are not for your own self-promoting endeavors. Well they are, but you have to be much more subtle about it.

I am promoting an idea.
Like I mentioned, it doesn't have to be me.
But if for some badass unlikely reason this would become a possibility, I want to have a part in it.
Doesn't mean I have to be the center of attention.
Getting where you want in life is having an idea and sticking with it right?
I am doing just that, and I'll do whatever I have to until it either becomes a reality or it is pushed off as a flop.

[Knil]

Take the classic Donkey Kong game for instance. If anyone has seen the movie, "Fistful of quarters" then it will be very clear. The top players ARE in a league of their own. An average joe player won't get better in 30 days and some never do after 30 years. It's just how it is. Some people are mentally and physically better which can sound unreasonable or complete BS but it is true.

Some gamers play everyday of every month to try and be the best but will never achieve what some do in less time. There isn't much to say. Regardless of nade points, set up, etc; some people can't play the game that well at all. I'm sure everyone knows someone on their list that plays more than usual, but still sucks.

Trying hard does get you places, but there is always someone trying harder than you regardless. I'm not going to post something hopeful for everyone to see because it's too big of a pipe dream to shoot for. Play the game for fun, don't go too far as too ruining your life over this game. Treat this like a hobby.

[YungGHO57]

I like how you said
"Just no-one wants to team with someone who gets 3 flag caps and 18 assists"

Why wouldn't they? Unless you have a bijillion deaths.
Anyways....

[x_AoS_x_Synergy]

So basicly you wanna b on MTV MAID??????

[_Requiem_]

I don't know about ya'll but I would get a million times better if I played with pros for like a week, let alone a whole month.

[CAPOCHINO]

Great ass idea

[AwKwarDD]

Take the classic Donkey Kong game for instance. If anyone has seen the movie, "Fistful of quarters" then it will be very clear. The top players ARE in a league of their own. An average joe player won't get better in 30 days and some never do after 30 years. It's just how it is. Some people are mentally and physically better which can sound unreasonable or complete BS but it is true.

Some gamers play everyday of every month to try and be the best but will never achieve what some do in less time. There isn't much to say. Regardless of nade points, set up, etc; some people can't play the game that well at all. I'm sure everyone knows someone on their list that plays more than usual, but still sucks.

Trying hard does get you places, but there is always someone trying harder than you regardless. I'm not going to post something hopeful for everyone to see because it's too big of a pipe dream to shoot for. Play the game for fun, don't go too far as too ruining your life over this game. Treat this like a hobby.

I disagree.

[CAPOCHINO]

Could they pick me?

[-J0E-]

Can i be the Joe :D (i apologize in advance for the bad joke)

[1ns71nct]

You can make a garbage player to a decent player. But, you can't make a decent player a pro player. That player must do that himself. Some players just have born natural talent that goes for any sport as well.

[bl1nk182izback]

This is off topic i think, but what if they followed a pro or semi pro for a month or two weeks, or however long. They filmed and documented what they do to prepare for an event with their team. Then after the event, or the night before the event MLG has their team of the month or something. They play a 30-45 minute show on Thursday night before the tournament.

I like your idea but it seems very difficult to find success in less than 3 months in my opinion.

I also think the community would enjoy actually seeing a pro in action preparing for a tournament. I would watch for sure. They do shows like this all the time for pro sport teams. And i think the community would enjoy seeing this more. But if they could make a joe go pro i agree it would be awesome....great thread.

[Kamatzu]

I disagree.
Your well-constructed argument and valid points are irrefutable.

[CommoN.]

This is off topic i think, but what if they followed a pro or semi pro for a month or two weeks, or however long. They filmed and documented what they do to prepare for an event with their team. Then after the event, or the night before the event MLG has their team of the month or something. They play a 30-45 minute show on Thursday night before the tournament.

I like your idea but it seems very difficult to find success in less than 3 months in my opinion.

I also think the community would enjoy actually seeing a pro in action preparing for a tournament. I would watch for sure. They do shows like this all the time for pro sport teams. And i think the community would enjoy seeing this more. But if they could make a joe go pro i agree it would be awesome....great thread.
QFT

this is much better, and would work a lot better, the only thing is that some footage might not be wanted shown by the team/player filmed. so it would just be some of their public stuff, no gritty every little detail thing.

Defiantly would get some attention though.

[iBackPack.]

Good idea but it does take a good amount o time to get good especially good enough to make it into the pro bracket i just dnt think30 days is long enough but u never know i could work and make someones dreams come true

[kidkidkid]

As much as all this is true i still like the idea.

I concur.

[DudeItzSnowxx]

I don't know about ya'll but I would get a million times better if I played with pros for like a week, let alone a whole month.



I for example got good in halo from sheer dedication, and will. At the end I was able to compete with elite semi-pro players. If you gave me 30 days with all pros my game would sink or swim. At I have that competitive drive that makes me insane if im sinking. So I would improve greatly I know this as fact. How did Ace get good? playing with his pro friends from being Kyle's brother am I right? Prime example....

BUT...

As good as an idea as it is Harxey, the time-frame would be too short. To be more real you would have to follow at least 3months of following this player. Like in real world MTV lol.

[Josh_is_shagginess]

You cant just make someone that good that fast. You have to have what it takes not everyone is or has the potential to be pro. Interesting thought tho.

[_MeRC_]

To me it just sounds like you are trying to publicize yourself here. No offense but it seems you are getting the best deal out of this and just want to get known and be pro by use of free lessons. Correct me if im wrong but i thought i saw where there are testimonials on gaming-lessons. And another thing, if you are proposing that you get 30 days of lessons, what kind of person has the money to afford this. I mean str8 camp cost 1300 for a weekend and if it took 30 days that would just display something completely unreasonable. For the most part the only way to ever get noticed is to put in the time yourself and not stop until you are where you want to be. It could be a good idea if training packages were offered by gaming-lessons but all it is really doing is showing how much you would have to spend in hopes of getting a quick fix into being a professional player. This is just my take on things do not take it personally.

[iTsJuSTAvante]

Drilling the basic "theory" into someones head(Nade points, Spawns, Set-ups, Jumps) would be too long for just 30 days..

And the meta-game cannot be taught...Habits have to be broken through sheer force of will, Decision making is trial and error on the makers part, Prediction is just from playing a LOT.

Its a 'cool' idea and all..But not practical..

The only way to reach that level is through dedication.

This about sums up what I would have said.

[Casedude]

There are plenty of people out there who are good enough to be on a Semi-Pro team, say, Top 32 team, even Top 24 or Top 16, and Top 8, Top 4, etc. The only problem is, you have to be lucky enough to get on the team. If you think about it, Semi-pro is considered a Top 32 team.

32 teams x 4 players on each team = 128 players. There is only enough room for 128 players in the Top 32. Considering that over 1,000 players attend each event, and well over, I'd say, 20,000 people are good enough to be on a Top 32 team, there really isn't any room. Did this make any sense?

[Knil]

I disagree.

Why?

[Zealer]

to be fair, it may be your idea, but suggesting yourself to be the individual in question bias' the entire thing, like everyone else, you'd have to go through a lottery process so that the person who does win is chosen completly at random with the same amount of chance as any other.

[Warbird.]

lol no 1 cares about u.

[Tattered-]

Awesome Idea..but isn't this kinda like what Str8 camp is?

[Cadmiummmmmm]

There are plenty of people out there who are good enough to be on a Semi-Pro team, say, Top 32 team, even Top 24 or Top 16, and Top 8, Top 4, etc. The only problem is, you have to be lucky enough to get on the team. If you think about it, Semi-pro is considered a Top 32 team.

32 teams x 4 players on each team = 128 players. There is only enough room for 128 players in the Top 32. Considering that over 1,000 players attend each event, and well over, I'd say, 20,000 people think they are good enough to be on a Top 32 team, there really isn't any room. Did this make any sense?
Fixed. People think they can because they have never played with anyone good and have never been to an event. Most people think they are god when they get running riots off of 45s in playlist, because thats what they see pros doing. But you have to keep in mind that they are getting matched up against 50s who would destroy you.
OP: Anyways, that's a good idea and I hope a staff member sees this thread and considers it.

[scoot_scoot]

Why don't we make fun of how many teams bounce around so often and call it a soap opra :razz:

[RehnX]

I think it was... Kyo? Who was posting his progress trying to get back into the game from Halo 2 and he improved pretty quickly. I think it was a couple months though



Kyo already knew though, the meta game(which is the hard unteachable stuff) has downgraded since Halo 2, all Kyo had to do was get the (For want of a better word) 'Physical" side of H3 down. Which is simple and only requires time.

You cannot be taught the things that would make you into a top even 64 team, it comes from dedication and hard work..There is no "easy button" to be good at anything.

Pros lessons tell you what you do wrong..They cannot tell you how to fix it(as it would be different for each person).

Having a 'dream' is good, but if you honestly want it...You work for it.

[dynamik123]

While it sounds like a good idea, it will end up the same way all these get better fast "ideas" have went. At first they get a lot of support. Then a couple videos/updates come out, and eventually people get bored and the idea dies. Sorry, but don't waste your time.

[Robbie.B]

Someone already tried something like this called "From noob to known", "Kyo's comeback challenge" is also similar to this idea. Halo 3 is a game where it is difficult to just jump into the scene and become pro, it takes time and hard work to get to the pro level.

[.HaVok.]

Someone already tried something like this called "From noob to known", "Kyo's comeback challenge" is also similar to this idea. Halo 3 is a game where it is difficult to just jump into the scene and become pro, it takes time and hard work to get to the pro level.
as with any other sport/competitive thing.. such as poker etc.... Keep in mind pro gaming is getting bigger and bigger.. and it will only get bigger. Which means there will be more events, longer events, etc etc.
But yes u do need to put in work and practise. As u do with anything you want to do in life

[Gyro13]

Isn't the agreement with Doritos bringing us something similar?

[xsvskills]

I like how you said
"Just no-one wants to team with someone who gets 3 flag caps and 18 assists"

Why wouldn't they? Unless you have a bijillion deaths.
Anyways....

Id sure as hell team with them if they got that every game, especially if they got 3 on Narrows or Pit, cause obviously you won.

[CallMeWarrior]

Sounds Coolio.

[wellhellothere]

I disagree.

well with a argument like that who are we to doubt your strong opinion on the subject is there a reason you disagree?

[-Jorge]

there would be ups and downs with this idea, but i'd like to see the results

[Kingzyy]

Uhm i'm not doing anything special right now ;). If this idea does happen good luck to who ever it happens to. I think it would be pretty awesome to see it done successfully.

[Harxey]

To me it just sounds like you are trying to publicize yourself here. No offense but it seems you are getting the best deal out of this and just want to get known and be pro by use of free lessons. Correct me if im wrong but i thought i saw where there are testimonials on gaming-lessons. And another thing, if you are proposing that you get 30 days of lessons, what kind of person has the money to afford this. I mean str8 camp cost 1300 for a weekend and if it took 30 days that would just display something completely unreasonable. For the most part the only way to ever get noticed is to put in the time yourself and not stop until you are where you want to be. It could be a good idea if training packages were offered by gaming-lessons but all it is really doing is showing how much you would have to spend in hopes of getting a quick fix into being a professional player. This is just my take on things do not take it personally.

Not taking this personally in no manner. :)

Like I have said a few times before, it doesn't have to be me.
I just want to be part of it. **** be the host of it or something... It's just an idea I think it would be cool to see come true

[Harxey]

Why don't we make fun of how many teams bounce around so often and call it a soap opra :razz:

lawl!

[DudeItzSnowxx]

It sucks that everything in life is a freakin lottery. Dying, becoming a star, becoming pro in halo.

My new gamertag will reflect that.

RitePlace@RiteTime

Thats all life is. You can work your ass off. You dont have any luck. Sucks for you