What type or player am I?

[i-Trigga]

First of all i am not sure if this belongs, here but i am pretty sure it does.

Edit: Just saw the mistake in my title its suppose to say.
What type of player am I?

Hey everyone over the past 9 months, i have really had trouble getting to a higher level in the MLG playlist. Currently i am a level 23 ( Yeah i know i suck flame, and neg rep me ) And i cant really find a good role in the game. Sometimes i will pick up the snipe, and just slay, sometimes i do objective. I cant really find what i am best at. There are games that i will go +14. Some i go -14. then some games i may have four flag caps, or some where i have zero, and like -7. In what i have seen i am more of a objective player.

I am not very good with the sniper, or Battle Rifle. But like last game i just played it was CtF on Onslaught, we were down 3 - 0. And that whole time we were down i just kind of protected are flag, and tried slaying. I had not touched their flag once. Then when i go and grab it, i am around five feet away from capping it, and i die. My team mates get the cap though. Same thing happened three more times. But the third they returned it, and the fourth time i capped it.

So we win the game 4 - 3. I went -12 with 15 Assits, 6 grabs, and 1 cap. But 3 out of our 4 caps. I got the flag, and got it like five feet away. Even though i died, my team mates picked it up, and were able to get the cap. And when i play i usually get the most time with the ball, in the hill, or most caps. So what role do you think i am? Support, Main Slayer, or Objective? And if i am Objective, when i play should i try to do objective, and go to slayer if i am getting a lot of kills, or just stay Objective?

I would really appreciate any answers, or comments, because i need all the help i can get.

[IIReignManII]

I definatly feel you...Sometimes I'll play great and sometimes its like Murphy's Law in full force. Like everything that can go wrong does. Getting picked off every time Im one shot, getting team shotted like crazy, rediculous random nades, missing easy shots...it gets really frustrating sometimes. Usually thats just a product of playing a team with people who have better teamwork and communication, when you're playing by yourself or your team has no communication and organized teamwork. The best thing to do is find a team of guys you play well with, and just practice and work together on your strats. Try doing customs and octagon type games to improve your BR skills. I personally think roles are overrated to an extent...Of course you want your best sniper to have the snipe, and things of that sort, but if you have a team of guys that can do anything and adapt to any situation thats where you have your success. So just start working on your teamwork, watch films and try and see what you did wrong and how to improve on your decision making. And do things like Octagon with friends to start trying to improve your BR skills.

[-Rasta-]

Don't assign yourself to a certain role. If you are sitting in hill getiing time while also getting a lot of kills, don't get out of hill because you think you are going to play "Slayer" that game. Just stay in that hill and keep doing what you are doing. If you say "Ok, I will be the objective player this game," dont just rush objective and keep dying. Make sure the other team is 2 or 3 down before you go for the objective. Same rule applies with slayer. If you tell yourself you are going to be a main slayer that game, you are limiting yourself to doing one thing. Just try to play whatever role is needed to be played at the time. Thats what makes a good player. Being able to play any role at any time. If the other team is 4 down on Pit CTF, PULL THE FLAG. Don't sit around and tell everyone that you are playing main slayer, because they will most likely get angry at you. Just try to be a good overall player that can play any role and you should be ok.
Hope i helped :P

[.ELeKTroNiK.]

in my opinion.. no one should have a "set role" to play. because what happens if someone fails to do his part? no one else would know what to do and you would get destroyed.

So basically.. whoever is on fire or hot during the game should just go around slaying stuff.. and everyone else just work together to get the objective done. <-- that's just how i see it...

[givemeblanket]

Rasta and Elektronik THANK YOU!
Someone other than me has finally posted, "There isn't really a specific role". Just like they said, you can't specify yourself to doing one thing. If your Br and snipe are bad then just practice by doing FFA's or octagon, or just playing.

[Cexyyy]

You're a Walshy: die repeatedly to pull the flag.

[i-Trigga]

You're a Walshy: die repeatedly to pull the flag.

I guess that's a good thing because if gave my team 2 caps. And we won

[Capitan_Si_2]

If you're playing by yourself at that level, chances are you'll have to be your team's main slayer/objective and support in order to win :(

[Quarrterkue]

You sound like the best kind of player: one who will do anything for the W.

Kills are overrated anyway.

[TRposeR]

IMO i don't think being considered main slayer support or objective i understand that people are better with the snipe and should pick it up and slay but i think every1 on the team should focus on winning and do what you have to do to win.

[K1llaB1rd]

You sound like the best kind of player: one who will do anything for the W.

Kills are overrated anyway.

Exactly my thoughts. Just go out there and lay it all out on the map for the W without caring what role you take: about the only thing I don't really want to do during a game is snipe and that's because I can't no-scope or quick-scope.

[xlNeoN]

Don't ever play as one person or one role. Don't think about it pre game (Ok...I'll just always grab the flag) because good players do their roles on the fly, naturally, and based on their team's positioning. Granted I play with my to4 usually, so going in alone could be different.

But as for your position....forget everything you think about it.

First thing, think of your BR and Snipe. You really don't have to be rediculous with the Sniper, or even great. Generally your to4 will have one or two of those guys. But your BR is up there pretty high in importance. Sure it can be over shadowed by team shooting, and amazing positioning, but you need a good BR- or at least par. You hurt your team a lot if you can't win those one versus one matchups in the 4v4s.

If you need to improve either, just find a few friends via the forums etc, and run a lot of Octagons/Br stadiums. Honestly, the playlist won't help it that much.

Next, you should be playing more confident. You know you can sometimes pull off great plays with the Sniper but you know you can generally hold your own with it (a lot of it is positioning, watch Snipedown VoD or Naded). But really, being confident with the BR means a lot. My three teammates are all eastern, so generally our games are always on an east host which isn't that great for me since I'm in Utah- but I deal with it.

But really, if you have any one months, use them. Play the playlist. For hours and hours straight if possible. Just experience all the maps and how to play things in all the levels. Go watch pro teams and their VoDs, note what they do, etc.

Just trying to help out, bro. You make it sound like you aren't too happy with your BR/Snipe, and that you are un sure of how to play the maps (Hence the inconsistent styles). Now I know what I just said contradicts the very first thing I told you, but if you find a solid to4, generally 3 games out of 5 you will naturally play a role based on your teammates, but sometimes against different teams things switch up. Maybe they have better connections/BRs and your main slayer can't keep up but your support can- he will be trying to play natural and end up naturally probably being support-ish.

I hope you get my general points....I guess the main points are;

Watch VoD/Take a lot of notes. Work on your BR with friends. Learn that your role is really influenced by the people and events around you in-game.

[O_to_the_Wen]

Take a look at this (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4742460#post4742460) thread.

[0mniArsonist]

First of all i am not sure if this belongs, here but i am pretty sure it does.

Edit: Just saw the mistake in my title its suppose to say.
What type of player am I?

Hey everyone over the past 9 months, i have really had trouble getting to a higher level in the MLG playlist. Currently i am a level 23 ( Yeah i know i suck flame, and neg rep me ) And i cant really find a good role in the game. Sometimes i will pick up the snipe, and just slay, sometimes i do objective. I cant really find what i am best at. There are games that i will go +14. Some i go -14. then some games i may have four flag caps, or some where i have zero, and like -7. In what i have seen i am more of a objective player.

I am not very good with the sniper, or Battle Rifle. But like last game i just played it was CtF on Onslaught, we were down 3 - 0. And that whole time we were down i just kind of protected are flag, and tried slaying. I had not touched their flag once. Then when i go and grab it, i am around five feet away from capping it, and i die. My team mates get the cap though. Same thing happened three more times. But the third they returned it, and the fourth time i capped it.

So we win the game 4 - 3. I went -12 with 15 Assits, 6 grabs, and 1 cap. But 3 out of our 4 caps. I got the flag, and got it like five feet away. Even though i died, my team mates picked it up, and were able to get the cap. And when i play i usually get the most time with the ball, in the hill, or most caps. So what role do you think i am? Support, Main Slayer, or Objective? And if i am Objective, when i play should i try to do objective, and go to slayer if i am getting a lot of kills, or just stay Objective?

I would really appreciate any answers, or comments, because i need all the help i can get.


The common misconception most people make in this game is feeling the need to fit into a role or to always have roles either individually or on a team. The experienced players for the most part know what they do best and what they can allow others to do and that is what makes a balanced team, knowing your strengths and weaknesses and being able to capitalize on both. However roles won't do much for a team, in fact it can even be the catalyst and in most cases it is. People who are main slayers have overinflated egos, support players feel that they aren't given enough credit, and objective players feel they lack the shine and support that people get who put up huge numbers instead of the flag caps or the ball time. This is something you want to stay away from. If you have to define what kind of player you are go beyond mere roles. Look at what you do best, what you lack, what you bring to the table and focus on that. You don't need a label to play this game, just a sense of mental awareness and a controller, and the rest falls into place.

If you are a 23 in MLG currently your concern should not necessarily be what type of player you are anyway, but simply how you can achieve a higher level and better yourself all around as a player. Only being able to get a 23 even by yourself isn't something I will bash you for, but it is a lower level and the concern for what type of player you as opposed to how you can better yourself as a player altogether should be anathema. Like I said before do not play for your stats or a label that doesn't do your own real name, or alter-alias justice to begin with. Play for the win because in the end whether it is online or at a tournament, that is all that matters, regardless of if you go +14 or -14, a win is a win.

[O_to_the_Wen]

The common misconception most people make in this game is feeling the need to fit into a role or to always have roles either individually or on a team. The experienced players for the most part know what they do best and what they can allow others to do and that is what makes a balanced team, knowing your strengths and weaknesses and being able to capitalize on both. However roles won't do much for a team, in fact it can even be the catalyst and in most cases it is. People who are main slayers have overinflated egos, support players feel that they aren't given enough credit, and objective players feel they lack the shine and support that people get who put up huge numbers instead of the flag caps or the ball time. This is something you want to stay away from. If you have to define what kind of player you are go beyond mere roles. Look at what you do best, what you lack, what you bring to the table and focus on that. You don't need a label to play this game, just a sense of mental awareness and a controller, and the rest falls into place.

If you are a 23 in MLG currently your concern should not necessarily be what type of player you are anyway, but simply how you can achieve a higher level and better yourself all around as a player. Only being able to get a 23 even by yourself isn't something I will bash you for, but it is a lower level and the concern for what type of player you as opposed to how you can better yourself as a player altogether should be anathema. Like I said before do not play for your stats or a label that doesn't do your own real name, or alter-alias justice to begin with. Play for the win because in the end whether it is online or at a tournament, that is all that matters, regardless of if you go +14 or -14, a win is a win.

This guy speaks the ultimate truth.

[Gavin.iz.godly]

Don't assign yourself to a certain role. If you are sitting in hill getiing time while also getting a lot of kills, don't get out of hill because you think you are going to play "Slayer" that game. Just stay in that hill and keep doing what you are doing. If you say "Ok, I will be the objective player this game," dont just rush objective and keep dying. Make sure the other team is 2 or 3 down before you go for the objective. Same rule applies with slayer. If you tell yourself you are going to be a main slayer that game, you are limiting yourself to doing one thing. Just try to play whatever role is needed to be played at the time. Thats what makes a good player. Being able to play any role at any time. If the other team is 4 down on Pit CTF, PULL THE FLAG. Don't sit around and tell everyone that you are playing main slayer, because they will most likely get angry at you. Just try to be a good overall player that can play any role and you should be ok.
Hope i helped :P
excatly, if you have it in your mind that your a certain role, youll be holding your team back, unless you are going in as a team, if you go in by yourself, just play, do what needs to be done

[Farrovv]

Unless you have a team dont focus on roles, play to make your self a well rounded player and a better one. On teams the only reason people may fall into roles is because someone may be slightly better then them at something, like the sniper for instance. T2 is a great sniper but when Snipedown came onto his team he allowed him to use it the majority of the time because Snipedown is better then him. If you try to focus on doing a role when you are by your self in playlist you will rarely be successful because, not everyone will be on the same page, which is why you have games where everyone is trying to be main slayers in obj games, out slaying the other team but rarely pulling the flag which leads them to lose.

If i where in your position I would focus more on trying to get my BR and Snipe better, once you do it will allow you to do much more as you can challenge more, win fights more often and stay alive. Then i would work on positioning and routes you take. Watch VOD of good players to see what they do in certain citations, how they get to places, how they start and have players who are better then you asses your films to give you tips and point out mistakes you may have not realized you where doing.

[Northern_Crater]

Best thing for you is practice, and NEVER let anything anyone says to you about your skill or anything get to you. Try to find a Customs list and get on it.

[vivec01]

Well, i dont know if i can give good advice, i quit halo 3 a while ago, but i had a 44 in MLG before i did. But I think the best way you can improve is to work on one part of your game really hard for one week, IE, your BR, your snipe, or str8 communication, power weapon control, or ETC. That way you improve faster at 1 big aspect of the game. Sometimes you can just generalize and say " i want to work on my shooting and accuaracy and strafe" or "i want to work on my team skills" focus extremely hard on one aspect, and you will be strong in the category while being weak in another, but remember to do both.